If the United States experiences a horrifying economic collapse

[Ontario]

If the United States experiences a horrifying economic collapse (and it most definitely will), will that cause a complete and total collapse of society? Will we experience crime, violence, riots and social unrest on a scale that is unprecedented in U.S. history? Before you dismiss such notions as utter foolishness dreamed up by a few bloggers with too much time on their hands, perhaps you should consider what one of the biggest credit rating organizations in the world is saying. According to a report on sovereign debt by Moody’s, the world’s five biggest AAA-rated countries (including the United States) are all at risk of soaring debt costs and will have to implement austerity plans that threaten “social cohesion”. In case you are wondering what happens when “social cohesion” starts to break down due to economic factors, just check out the recent examples in Iceland and Greece. If even Moody’s is warning that there is a realistic possibility that “social cohesion” in the United States may break down due to economic factors, perhaps we should all start listening.Or if you will not listen to Moody’s, then perhaps you will listen to the man who has been called the top trends researcher in the entire world. Gerald Celente is the CEO of Trends Research Institute, and he is convinced that we are heading into what he calls “The Greatest Depression”. The picture that he paints of the future of America is extremely alarming and extremely sobering. It would be easy to dismiss his forecasts as just the ramblings of another useless “talking head”, but unfortunately Celente has been dead-on accurate time after time after time in the past. Considering his exemplary track record, what Celente says is coming next for America is incredibly frightening….

This is a tough topic, because people either don’t won’t to believe it or are not capable because they lack the knowledge to comprehend what is being said. When you understand that our country can only operate based on debt/credit, not physical dollars, you finally see that the USA is a huge Ponzi scheme built on nothing more that our ability to borrow money. Our status as the world reserve currency has allowed us to borrow money that we do not have.

The government says that there are 10 trillion dollars sitting in the US Banking system that we can go and easily withdrawal. How can that be true when there only exists 1.4 trillion of real money in circulation (dollars and coins) and more than one half of that is outside the US. This doesn’t include the 10s of trillions more that we owe other countries that have purchased our debt. If our creditors were to all come and ask for their money at one time there would be less than $1 dollar for every $1000 dollars owed. The world economy collapses. All Great empires based on fiat currencies end in this way. People I talk to like my wife and friends have no clue what is coming.

Here is the scenario. “Government agencies are having difficulty making their payments. State governments are issuing vouchers to pay their bills. US Social Security is late in issuing its payments to retirees and the disabled. Many banks are issuing warnings about liquidity. The prices of food are escalating by the hour. Instead of talking about the latest inane reality TV show, everyone is talking about inflation, money, mass layoffs, etc. It is 5 days before the economic collapse.” So, what do you do?

Our current recession/depression is slow creeping at this point towards a bad outcome. Although I believe US and Canada are still 3 to 5 years away from an economic collapse, I woefully believe that the collapse is coming. Euro will collapse first. Greece, Venezuela and Spain have already collapsed. Italy and Portugal are soon to collapse next. Having this insight, I have been preparing vigorously for the past 2 years.

[BroJones]

If the United States experiences a horrifying economic collapse (and it most definitely will), will that cause a complete and total collapse of society? Will we experience crime, violence, riots and social unrest on a scale that is unprecedented in U.S. history? Before you dismiss such notions as utter foolishness dreamed up by a few bloggers with too much time on their hands, perhaps you should consider what one of the biggest credit rating organizations in the world is saying. According to a report on sovereign debt by Moody’s, the world’s five biggest AAA-rated countries (including the United States) are all at risk of soaring debt costs and will have to implement austerity plans that threaten “social cohesion”. In case you are wondering what happens when “social cohesion” starts to break down due to economic factors, just check out the recent examples in Iceland and Greece. If even Moody’s is warning that there is a realistic possibility that “social cohesion” in the United States may break down due to economic factors, perhaps we should all start listening.Or if you will not listen to Moody’s, then perhaps you will listen to the man who has been called the top trends researcher in the entire world. Gerald Celente is the CEO of Trends Research Institute, and he is convinced that we are heading into what he calls “The Greatest Depression”. The picture that he paints of the future of America is extremely alarming and extremely sobering. It would be easy to dismiss his forecasts as just the ramblings of another useless “talking head”, but unfortunately Celente has been dead-on accurate time after time after time in the past. Considering his exemplary track record, what Celente says is coming next for America is incredibly frightening….

This is a tough topic, because people either don’t won’t to believe it or are not capable because they lack the knowledge to comprehend what is being said. When you understand that our country can only operate based on debt/credit, not physical dollars, you finally see that the USA is a huge Ponzi scheme built on nothing more that our ability to borrow money. Our status as the world reserve currency has allowed us to borrow money that we do not have.

The government says that there are 10 trillion dollars sitting in the US Banking system that we can go and easily withdrawal. How can that be true when there only exists 1.4 trillion of real money in circulation (dollars and coins) and more than one half of that is outside the US. This doesn’t include the 10s of trillions more that we owe other countries that have purchased our debt. If our creditors were to all come and ask for their money at one time there would be less than $1 dollar for every $1000 dollars owed. The world economy collapses. All Great empires based on fiat currencies end in this way. People I talk to like my wife and friends have no clue what is coming.

Here is the scenario. “Government agencies are having difficulty making their payments. State governments are issuing vouchers to pay their bills. US Social Security is late in issuing its payments to retirees and the disabled. Many banks are issuing warnings about liquidity. The prices of food are escalating by the hour. Instead of talking about the latest inane reality TV show, everyone is talking about inflation, money, mass layoffs, etc. It is 5 days before the economic collapse.” So, what do you do?

Our current recession/depression is slow creeping at this point towards a bad outcome. Although I believe US and Canada are still 3 to 5 years away from an economic collapse, I woefully believe that the collapse is coming. Euro will collapse first. Greece, Venezuela and Spain have already collapsed. Italy and Portugal are soon to collapse next. Having this insight, I have been preparing vigorously for the past 2 years.

Well said. "When you understand that our country can only operate based on debt/credit, not physical dollars, you finally see that the USA is a huge Ponzi scheme built on nothing more that our ability to borrow money. Our status as the world reserve currency has allowed us to borrow money that we do not have."

[endlessQuestions]

The crash was baked into the cake. I remember when I first realized I’ve never lived in a time of true economic prosperity.. eye opening!

[Dusty Wanderer]

Having this insight, I have been preparing vigorously for the past 2 years.

Ontario, in what ways have you been preparing? Are you fully-committed to the collapse, meaning are you evacuating all your investments and converting them into tangible assets, like property, tools, food/water, defense, transportation alternatives, garden, livestock, etc? Are you buying commodities that are in your possession, like silver?

[Dusty Wanderer]

According to a report on sovereign debt by Moody’s, the world’s five biggest AAA-rated countries (including the United States) are all at risk of soaring debt costs and will have to implement austerity plans that threaten “social cohesion”. In case you are wondering what happens when “social cohesion” starts to break down due to economic factors, just check out the recent examples in Iceland and Greece.

I've been reading about Agentina's 2001 collapse. They didn't think it could happen either.

An interesting thing about this author's perspective, having lived through it, was that those living in solitude in the middle of nowhere had some horrible things happen to them by roaming bands of thugs, etc. Some have this idea of alone as being safe, but it may just make you an easier target. Not that being remote was bad. In fact, having dirt was good for growing your own food and having some kind of livestock, but without some kind of community around you, resiliency suffers and windows of vulnerability are greater.

[Ontario]

Having this insight, I have been preparing vigorously for the past 2 years.

Ontario, in what ways have you been preparing? Are you fully-committed to the collapse, meaning are you evacuating all your investments and converting them into tangible assets, like property, tools, food/water, defense, transportation alternatives, garden, livestock, etc? Are you buying commodities that are in your possession, like silver?

Gather your families and survival group. Limit any travel to local areas.

Get Cash !!! If you have any securities or investments remaining (likely to be worthless at this time), sell and receive cash for proceeds. Liquidate your bank accounts. Empty any security lock boxes as banks. Get to the banks, before banks close or go into a bank holiday. Get small bills, $1, $5, and $20. Coinage will also be valuable. When the banks close, credit cards are mass canceled, and ATM machine stop working, people will need to make their own change for purchases.

If you have a bug-out residence, it is time to pack up and relocated to your survival homestead. If civil order is maintained, give yourself enough time to make multiple trips to relocate your supplies and gear to your retreat location.

If grocery stores are still operating, buy as much canned and dried foods as you can get your hands on. Canned meat, canned vegetables, canned and dried beans, rice, and dry pasta should be a priority at this moment. If you are a survival prepper, you should already have 6 months to 2 years of stored food. Now is the time to top off your supplies of food, before the collapse. Once the collapse occurs, grocery stores will become battle grounds, and should be avoided. Here are some alternative places to purchase your last minute groceries:

Gas Stations often carry lots of groceries, especially snack food. You find some canned and dried foods at gasoline stations.

Drug Stores are often now mini-groceries stores.
Vitamin Stores often have various food bars and nutrition drink mixes.

Vending Machines as road stops, office buildings, and schools are sources of last minute food purchases. For this reason, you should include a roll of quarters (or two) in your vehicle.

Restaurants that close will often have a store of bulk foods that did not sell. Any restaurant that just recently closed should be contacted to offer purchasing bulk canned food.
Movie Theaters often have lots of snacks for sale.

Neighbors that bug out might leave behind food that they could not transport. I am a firm believer in the rule of law and supporting local police in their crime prevention efforts. So, do not loot! Looting will increase the breakdown of society. Rather be prepared, so that you need not be put into a desperate situation. Rather, I would offer to watch over the homes of people to leave to relocate to their remote family members. If you are known and trusted by your neighbors, ask for a key so that you can check into their homes for water leaks or break-in’s. Politely ask your neighbor, “if you do not return by specific date, may I make use of any tools or supplies your have left in your home?” If civil order breaks down in your neighborhood, then move your neighbor’s supplies into your home for safe keeping, Once the neighbor returns, return their supplies. If they don’t return, then at least their supplies did not go to waste.
Stock up on needed prescription drugs.

Ask your doctor for a 3 month prescription.
Most heath insurance will only pay for one month of drugs at a time.
Tell the pharmacy that you will pay in cash for anything that does insurance company does not cover.

Get printed copies of your prescriptions, in case of power outages.
Keep your original prescription bottles, in order to demonstrate that you are legitimate in obtaining refills. Form a relationship with your local pharmacy, so that they know your face and name.
Stock up on fuels:


Gasoline and diesel fuel, preferably in metal certified fuel cans

Fuel preservatives to delay the decay of hydrocarbon fuels

Propane tanks – small and large (fully filled propane tanks are excellent for long term storage, if kept dry and rust free)

Butane for lighters

Firewood for your fireplace

Hay and other feed for your horses

Now is the time to stock up on other supplies that you will need

Baby formula and diapers, if you have or expecting a baby

Feminine hygiene supplies

Toilet paper, facial tissues, paper towels

Batteries, as much as you can get your hands on

Ammunition, as much as as you can get your hands on

Pet food

[Niemand]

According to a report on sovereign debt by Moody’s, the world’s five biggest AAA-rated countries (including the United States) are all at risk of soaring debt costs and will have to implement austerity plans that threaten “social cohesion”. In case you are wondering what happens when “social cohesion” starts to break down due to economic factors, just check out the recent examples in Iceland and Greece.

I've been reading about Agentina's 2001 collapse. They didn't think it could happen either.

Argentina is not a good example. They haven't had a stable economy for a century. A lot of mismanagement. At one point they went through presidents like hot dinners.

Argentina's main issue, other than corruption, is that it is an export driven economy, and like Russia, those exports tend to be things like minerals and agricultural produce - steak famously. It does not have a decent internal market - about the nearest thing are exports to its South American neighbours (which have similar economic issues). The two world wars really hurt Argentina because it relied on European purchases. From WW2 up to the 80s it was run by a series of dictators.

The Falklands War in '82 was driven largely by economic problems at home needing a major distraction so they started a war with the UK.

I would say Iceland is a better example although their economy is much less diverse than the USA's.

[Niemand]

If the United States experiences a horrifying economic collapse (and it most definitely will), will that cause a complete and total collapse of society? Will we experience crime, violence, riots and social unrest on a scale that is unprecedented in U.S. history? Before you dismiss such notions as utter foolishness dreamed up by a few bloggers with too much time on their hands, perhaps you should consider what one of the biggest credit rating organizations in the world is saying. According to a report on sovereign debt by Moody’s, the world’s five biggest AAA-rated countries (including the United States) are all at risk of soaring debt costs and will have to implement austerity plans that threaten “social cohesion”. In case you are wondering what happens when “social cohesion” starts to break down due to economic factors, just check out the recent examples in Iceland and Greece. If even Moody’s is warning that there is a realistic possibility that “social cohesion” in the United States may break down due to economic factors, perhaps we should all start listening.Or if you will not listen to Moody’s, then perhaps you will listen to the man who has been called the top trends researcher in the entire world. Gerald Celente is the CEO of Trends Research Institute, and he is convinced that we are heading into what he calls “The Greatest Depression”. The picture that he paints of the future of America is extremely alarming and extremely sobering. It would be easy to dismiss his forecasts as just the ramblings of another useless “talking head”, but unfortunately Celente has been dead-on accurate time after time after time in the past. Considering his exemplary track record, what Celente says is coming next for America is incredibly frightening….

This is a tough topic, because people either don’t won’t to believe it or are not capable because they lack the knowledge to comprehend what is being said. When you understand that our country can only operate based on debt/credit, not physical dollars, you finally see that the USA is a huge Ponzi scheme built on nothing more that our ability to borrow money. Our status as the world reserve currency has allowed us to borrow money that we do not have.

The government says that there are 10 trillion dollars sitting in the US Banking system that we can go and easily withdrawal. How can that be true when there only exists 1.4 trillion of real money in circulation (dollars and coins) and more than one half of that is outside the US. This doesn’t include the 10s of trillions more that we owe other countries that have purchased our debt. If our creditors were to all come and ask for their money at one time there would be less than $1 dollar for every $1000 dollars owed. The world economy collapses. All Great empires based on fiat currencies end in this way. People I talk to like my wife and friends have no clue what is coming.

Here is the scenario. “Government agencies are having difficulty making their payments. State governments are issuing vouchers to pay their bills. US Social Security is late in issuing its payments to retirees and the disabled. Many banks are issuing warnings about liquidity. The prices of food are escalating by the hour. Instead of talking about the latest inane reality TV show, everyone is talking about inflation, money, mass layoffs, etc. It is 5 days before the economic collapse.” So, what do you do?

Our current recession/depression is slow creeping at this point towards a bad outcome. Although I believe US and Canada are still 3 to 5 years away from an economic collapse, I woefully believe that the collapse is coming. Euro will collapse first. Greece, Venezuela and Spain have already collapsed. Italy and Portugal are soon to collapse next. Having this insight, I have been preparing vigorously for the past 2 years.

Well said. "When you understand that our country can only operate based on debt/credit, not physical dollars, you finally see that the USA is a huge Ponzi scheme built on nothing more that our ability to borrow money. Our status as the world reserve currency has allowed us to borrow money that we do not have."

The USA has been lucky in that the US$ is the de facto global currency. However, I've always wondered how much US currency (physical) is outside the USA. I reckon it runs into billions. Some of it may even be real!

The big threat is China, and it beggars belief that the USA has allowed that debt to happen.

Crucially though, the USA may be suffering from the same issue as the late Soviet Union, i.e. huge spending on its military and spy services, and prestige projects like space exploration.

[blitzinstripes]

That's why I try to live an ETB-esque version of our faith. Borderline paranoid obsession with current world events, versed in the prophecies, red pilled enough to see the conspirators at work, and I take my prepping seriously. Maybe I'm stuck in the cold war era .....

[Dusty Wanderer]

...
Argentina's main issue, other than corruption, is that it is an export driven economy, and like Russia, those exports tend to be things like minerals and agricultural produce - steak famously.
...

It's almost 6PM where I'm at, and my wife just asked if I wanted to go out for dinner. Told her I had a hankering for steak for some reason.

[JK4Woods]

So I served a mission in Argentina in the early ‘80’s.

During the two years I was there, we had five different presidents running the country, and three different currencies.

Inflation exceeded 400% which caused hyper consumerism. Meaning you went out within hours of of getting paid, and spent the whole thing on food and bills, because in a week prices will go up another 12% or so.

Hanging on to Argentine currency for over two weeks was nuts, because it would be worth less and less. As missionaries we only kept enough cash for bus and subway fares.

We at least got our monthly allotments sent down in US dollars, although my mission costs went from $180/month when I started up to $600+ for two months, then with a new currency, costs settled back down to about $430/month.


Everyone suffered.

Those with US dollars made it thru ok. But you couldn’t find any to buy during the deepest hurt.


Just like gold will be the buffer for those smart enough to have purchased some before the dollar crashes.

Best to sell out of the stock market and buy physical gold, a strong box to store it in, and keep your mouth shut and not leave an trail that you have it.

Anyway, good luck..!!

[mudflap]

IMO, if it's going to collapse soon, it's too late to REALLY prepare.

Really preparing would mean
- no debt
- being able to grow your own food, store it over the winter, and plant more in the spring, and do all of the above without electricity.
- independent of the system, or at least have 2-3 income streams already proven and operating
- not making a big deal out of it so everyone in your ward thinks they can come camp out at your BOL when SHTF*
- knowing enough "about things" that you can honestly change your last name to MacGyver. The collapse will be full of broken down junk that most people won't know what to do with. There will be a few who "know stuff about stuff" and can turn it into something useful.
- having enough ammo to survive the initial golden hordes escaping the city (it takes a special person to survive a collapse WITHIN a city, IMO.). After the initial wave, there'll be enough armaments from the dead that it won't be hard.


*interesting side thought: currently, we have lots of bishops and SP's and leadership who know nothing about mechanics, electricity, farming, or anything else "hands on". It's not their fault - I think TPTB look for successful businesmen to install in these positions. And maybe that's how it should be while we are in the mode in the church where the wheat and the tares grow together. But when it comes time to harvest and separate the wheat and tares - I think that's when you need some "doers" - the roughnecks, the men and women who "get things done". who know how to hoe a row, stretch a fence, shingle a roof, jack up a car to change a tire with a 4x4 and no jack.

just my ramblings....

[Niemand]

Get involved with barter and keep your dealings offline. Yes, I believe a lot of people Argentina already do this.

[Jalden]

Here is something we can do - start using gold instead of fiat currencies as much as possible. Gold and silver have been made legal tender in several US states already. Utah was the first. GoldBacks are one convenient way to put gold into circulation as a stable medium of exchange that is not subject to inflationary pressures. Goldbacks have been minted for Utah, Nevada, New Hampshire, and Wyoming - with plans to expand to the rest of the states in the near future. There also plans for GoldBack to become international. Indeed, they can be traded anywhere because they have intrinsic value.

You are invited to do something about our awful situation. Come to a free seminar on March 3rd at 6:30pm (in Lehi UT) to learn about gold, and Goldback in particular (https://goldback.com/). After the presentation, those who want to participate in an activity to spend gold in the community at large will be given 4 GoldBacks (approx. $15) to try to spend. There is a 100% refundable deposit to participate in this activity. The deposits will be returned if you come back on Sat, March 5th, also at 6:30pm to do a show-and-tell about your experience trying to make purchases with gold.

There is an EventBrite page to register (only the first 75 people get the free Goldbacks). It is here:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/goldback-s ... destsearch

Please know, I have ZERO financial connections to GoldBack. I am just convinced that it is a brilliant idea and solution to an age old problem, and want to see it succeed. I want to see my community, and nation, and our Liberties succeed.

[Original_Intent]

Also any prepping that you can do, do with cash. Not with credit card even if you pay off the balance, and also not CostCo even if you pay cash, because in either case, your purchases go into a database and it is simple to determine who has been prepping, and when the SHTF it will be called hoarding, and you will be gone after.

The only thing I disagree with is holding dollars. If the "Everything bubble" bursts, the dollar will be taken down with it in preparation for the great reset. Maybe keep a few months of expenses in cash. But beyond that, I'd go with food, land, "every needful thing" whatever that means to you and if you still have money, get barter goods. If you STILL have money, I'd at least consider gold and/or silver.

[mudflap]

If When the United States experiences a horrifying economic collapse

there, fixed it for ya.

[762X545]

The question I have is this. Why would the powers that be want America to collapse? Why would a king want his kingdom to collapse? His subjects to die or end up in civil war? I believe that the economy, which is a complete and utter lie to begin with, will continue to be propped up for decades to come.

[762X545]

Having this insight, I have been preparing vigorously for the past 2 years.

Ontario, in what ways have you been preparing? Are you fully-committed to the collapse, meaning are you evacuating all your investments and converting them into tangible assets, like property, tools, food/water, defense, transportation alternatives, garden, livestock, etc? Are you buying commodities that are in your possession, like silver?

Gather your families and survival group. Limit any travel to local areas.

Get Cash !!! If you have any securities or investments remaining (likely to be worthless at this time), sell and receive cash for proceeds. Liquidate your bank accounts. Empty any security lock boxes as banks. Get to the banks, before banks close or go into a bank holiday. Get small bills, $1, $5, and $20. Coinage will also be valuable. When the banks close, credit cards are mass canceled, and ATM machine stop working, people will need to make their own change for purchases.

If you have a bug-out residence, it is time to pack up and relocated to your survival homestead. If civil order is maintained, give yourself enough time to make multiple trips to relocate your supplies and gear to your retreat location.

If grocery stores are still operating, buy as much canned and dried foods as you can get your hands on. Canned meat, canned vegetables, canned and dried beans, rice, and dry pasta should be a priority at this moment. If you are a survival prepper, you should already have 6 months to 2 years of stored food. Now is the time to top off your supplies of food, before the collapse. Once the collapse occurs, grocery stores will become battle grounds, and should be avoided. Here are some alternative places to purchase your last minute groceries:

Gas Stations often carry lots of groceries, especially snack food. You find some canned and dried foods at gasoline stations.

Drug Stores are often now mini-groceries stores.
Vitamin Stores often have various food bars and nutrition drink mixes.

Vending Machines as road stops, office buildings, and schools are sources of last minute food purchases. For this reason, you should include a roll of quarters (or two) in your vehicle.

Restaurants that close will often have a store of bulk foods that did not sell. Any restaurant that just recently closed should be contacted to offer purchasing bulk canned food.
Movie Theaters often have lots of snacks for sale.

Neighbors that bug out might leave behind food that they could not transport. I am a firm believer in the rule of law and supporting local police in their crime prevention efforts. So, do not loot! Looting will increase the breakdown of society. Rather be prepared, so that you need not be put into a desperate situation. Rather, I would offer to watch over the homes of people to leave to relocate to their remote family members. If you are known and trusted by your neighbors, ask for a key so that you can check into their homes for water leaks or break-in’s. Politely ask your neighbor, “if you do not return by specific date, may I make use of any tools or supplies your have left in your home?” If civil order breaks down in your neighborhood, then move your neighbor’s supplies into your home for safe keeping, Once the neighbor returns, return their supplies. If they don’t return, then at least their supplies did not go to waste.
Stock up on needed prescription drugs.

Ask your doctor for a 3 month prescription.
Most heath insurance will only pay for one month of drugs at a time.
Tell the pharmacy that you will pay in cash for anything that does insurance company does not cover.

Get printed copies of your prescriptions, in case of power outages.
Keep your original prescription bottles, in order to demonstrate that you are legitimate in obtaining refills. Form a relationship with your local pharmacy, so that they know your face and name.
Stock up on fuels:


Gasoline and diesel fuel, preferably in metal certified fuel cans

Fuel preservatives to delay the decay of hydrocarbon fuels

Propane tanks – small and large (fully filled propane tanks are excellent for long term storage, if kept dry and rust free)

Butane for lighters

Firewood for your fireplace

Hay and other feed for your horses

Now is the time to stock up on other supplies that you will need

Baby formula and diapers, if you have or expecting a baby

Feminine hygiene supplies

Toilet paper, facial tissues, paper towels

Batteries, as much as you can get your hands on

Ammunition, as much as as you can get your hands on

Pet food

I'm just going to come siege you out of your place and then eat your dogs.

[lundbaek]

If the United States experiences a horrifying economic collapse, it will be because it will be for benefit or because we deserve it.

[nightlight]

The question I have is this. Why would the powers that be want America to collapse? Why would a king want his kingdom to collapse? His subjects to die or end up in civil war? I believe that the economy, which is a complete and utter lie to begin with, will continue to be propped up for decades to come.

There are people in high places that don't want you to be able to speak your mind... They don't want you to be able to pray and worship how you see fit.
They don't want you to be able to choose your representatives.... They don't want you to be able to carry a gun on your hip while promoting the idea that a man has a right to his labor.

You may not believe in the New World Order...but this doesn't change reality
You may not believe in Satan.... but this also doesn't change reality

[lundbaek]

The question I have is this. Why would the powers that be want America to collapse? Why would a king want his kingdom to collapse? His subjects to die or end up in civil war? I believe that the economy, which is a complete and utter lie to begin with, will continue to be propped up for decades to come.

Why would the latter-day gadiantons destroy the great prosperity that even they, the conspirators for global power, enjoy? Truth be known, wealthy and powerful men in government and business are colluding to finance war and destruction. It has happened before and it will happen again. For example, globalists bankers, corporation heads and government officials colluded prior to WWII to finance both Hitler and Stalin, and to undermine capitalist nations in order to pave the way for Socialism and war. A close look at the conduct of World War 2 relative to aid and concessions to Russia paint a picture of Western complicity to play the Hegelian game-- building up an enemy in order to produce a controlled crisis and a later response in the direction of more globalist and socialist control. The latter-day gadiantons have been actively colluding in the ruination of posperous nations in order to attain control on their terms of all human, natural, economic, agricultural, industrial, and other resources.

[762X545]

The question I have is this. Why would the powers that be want America to collapse? Why would a king want his kingdom to collapse? His subjects to die or end up in civil war? I believe that the economy, which is a complete and utter lie to begin with, will continue to be propped up for decades to come.

Why would the latter-day gadiantons destroy the great prosperity that even they, the conspirators for global power, enjoy? Truth be known, wealthy and powerful men in government and business are colluding to finance war and destruction. It has happened before and it will happen again. For example, globalists bankers, corporation heads and government officials colluded prior to WWII to finance both Hitler and Stalin, and to undermine capitalist nations in order to pave the way for Socialism and war. A close look at the conduct of World War 2 relative to aid and concessions to Russia paint a picture of Western complicity to play the Hegelian game-- building up an enemy in order to produce a controlled crisis and a later response in the direction of more globalist and socialist control. The latter-day gadiantons have been actively colluding in the ruination of posperous nations in order to attain control on their terms of all human, natural, economic, agricultural, industrial, and other resources.

Those that propped up and supported wars in the past did so in order to build up economies and nations in order to profit from them. They still do it today. America wasn't built to spread freedom or the gospel to the world etc. It was built by warmongers who needed an ultimate superpower so that they could keep fighting wars, building the machinery to fight these wars and continuously profit from these wars and in the process become unbelievably wealthy. To tear down their ATM doesn't make sense unless they have tired of America and plan on propping up another nation and economy to be their new cash cow. Personally I don't see the powers that be putting their little experiment at risk. That's why the train keeps rolling despite the undeniable fact that it should have ran off the tracks long ago.

[Primary Outcast]

The question I have is this. Why would the powers that be want America to collapse? Why would a king want his kingdom to collapse? His subjects to die or end up in civil war? I believe that the economy, which is a complete and utter lie to begin with, will continue to be propped up for decades to come.

Why would the latter-day gadiantons destroy the great prosperity that even they, the conspirators for global power, enjoy? Truth be known, wealthy and powerful men in government and business are colluding to finance war and destruction. It has happened before and it will happen again. For example, globalists bankers, corporation heads and government officials colluded prior to WWII to finance both Hitler and Stalin, and to undermine capitalist nations in order to pave the way for Socialism and war. A close look at the conduct of World War 2 relative to aid and concessions to Russia paint a picture of Western complicity to play the Hegelian game-- building up an enemy in order to produce a controlled crisis and a later response in the direction of more globalist and socialist control. The latter-day gadiantons have been actively colluding in the ruination of posperous nations in order to attain control on their terms of all human, natural, economic, agricultural, industrial, and other resources.

Those that propped up and supported wars in the past did so in order to build up economies and nations in order to profit from them. They still do it today. America wasn't built to spread freedom or the gospel to the world etc. It was built by warmongers who needed an ultimate superpower so that they could keep fighting wars, building the machinery to fight these wars and continuously profit from these wars and in the process become unbelievably wealthy. To tear down their ATM doesn't make sense unless they have tired of America and plan on propping up another nation and economy to be their new cash cow. Personally I don't see the powers that be putting their little experiment at risk. That's why the train keeps rolling despite the undeniable fact that it should have ran off the tracks long ago.

World power is up for grabs. These people want to own it all and control everything. They will continue to do what it takes to achieve their goal, including destroying America and the dollar.

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The question I have is this. Why would the powers that be want America to collapse? Why would a king want his kingdom to collapse? His subjects to die or end up in civil war? I believe that the economy, which is a complete and utter lie to begin with, will continue to be propped up for decades to come.

Why would the latter-day gadiantons destroy the great prosperity that even they, the conspirators for global power, enjoy? Truth be known, wealthy and powerful men in government and business are colluding to finance war and destruction. It has happened before and it will happen again. For example, globalists bankers, corporation heads and government officials colluded prior to WWII to finance both Hitler and Stalin, and to undermine capitalist nations in order to pave the way for Socialism and war. A close look at the conduct of World War 2 relative to aid and concessions to Russia paint a picture of Western complicity to play the Hegelian game-- building up an enemy in order to produce a controlled crisis and a later response in the direction of more globalist and socialist control. The latter-day gadiantons have been actively colluding in the ruination of posperous nations in order to attain control on their terms of all human, natural, economic, agricultural, industrial, and other resources.

Those that propped up and supported wars in the past did so in order to build up economies and nations in order to profit from them. They still do it today. America wasn't built to spread freedom or the gospel to the world etc. It was built by warmongers who needed an ultimate superpower so that they could keep fighting wars, building the machinery to fight these wars and continuously profit from these wars and in the process become unbelievably wealthy. To tear down their ATM doesn't make sense unless they have tired of America and plan on propping up another nation and economy to be their new cash cow. Personally I don't see the powers that be putting their little experiment at risk. That's why the train keeps rolling despite the undeniable fact that it should have ran off the tracks long ago.

World power is up for grabs. These people want to own it all and control everything. They will continue to do what it takes to achieve their goal, including destroying America and the dollar.

Perhaps but what good is it for someone to control garbage? Destroy America to control it? That's like me secretly draining the oil from my neighbors nice new truck hoping the engine will blow then walking on over and offer to buy the worthless truck from him. Now I might have a nice shiny truck but I can't do anything with it other than look at it then sit in the front seat making "vroom, vroom," sounds.

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The question I have is this. Why would the powers that be want America to collapse? Why would a king want his kingdom to collapse? His subjects to die or end up in civil war? I believe that the economy, which is a complete and utter lie to begin with, will continue to be propped up for decades to come.

Why would the latter-day gadiantons destroy the great prosperity that even they, the conspirators for global power, enjoy? Truth be known, wealthy and powerful men in government and business are colluding to finance war and destruction. It has happened before and it will happen again. For example, globalists bankers, corporation heads and government officials colluded prior to WWII to finance both Hitler and Stalin, and to undermine capitalist nations in order to pave the way for Socialism and war. A close look at the conduct of World War 2 relative to aid and concessions to Russia paint a picture of Western complicity to play the Hegelian game-- building up an enemy in order to produce a controlled crisis and a later response in the direction of more globalist and socialist control. The latter-day gadiantons have been actively colluding in the ruination of posperous nations in order to attain control on their terms of all human, natural, economic, agricultural, industrial, and other resources.

Those that propped up and supported wars in the past did so in order to build up economies and nations in order to profit from them. They still do it today. America wasn't built to spread freedom or the gospel to the world etc. It was built by warmongers who needed an ultimate superpower so that they could keep fighting wars, building the machinery to fight these wars and continuously profit from these wars and in the process become unbelievably wealthy. To tear down their ATM doesn't make sense unless they have tired of America and plan on propping up another nation and economy to be their new cash cow. Personally I don't see the powers that be putting their little experiment at risk. That's why the train keeps rolling despite the undeniable fact that it should have ran off the tracks long ago.

America was built by warmongers?

Lol You're so emotional its destroyed your awareness.