Breakthrough infections

[Sarah]

It's hard to find articles that talk about breakthrough infections in regards to just the last few weeks of delta, rather than lumping all data together. In this article they talk about how breakthrough infections have increased to over 12% of cases in Delaware, and half of the deaths have been breakthrough cases.

https://whyy.org/articles/del-officials ... harp-rise/

[alurker]

It's hard to find articles that talk about breakthrough infections in regards to just the last few weeks of delta, rather than lumping all data together. In this article they talk about how breakthrough infections have increased to over 12% of cases in Delaware, and half of the deaths have been breakthrough cases.

https://whyy.org/articles/del-officials ... harp-rise/

You are on the right track. Keep digging. Look at Israel-the most vaccinated country in the world.

[alurker]

It's hard to find articles that talk about breakthrough infections in regards to just the last few weeks of delta, rather than lumping all data together. In this article they talk about how breakthrough infections have increased to over 12% of cases in Delaware, and half of the deaths have been breakthrough cases.

https://whyy.org/articles/del-officials ... harp-rise/

There are reasons why, unless an honest to goodness unexplainable act of God occurs with the virus, the science, the data, and what is known about coronaviruses (not just CV-19) demonstrably show that this virus will always be with us, regardless of what we do (and in fact vaccines are likely making things worse).

It's why Denmark's CDC recently made the call that they will do away with all covid-19 mandates, vaccines, masks, social distancing, etc.

[Sarah]

It's hard to find articles that talk about breakthrough infections in regards to just the last few weeks of delta, rather than lumping all data together. In this article they talk about how breakthrough infections have increased to over 12% of cases in Delaware, and half of the deaths have been breakthrough cases.

https://whyy.org/articles/del-officials ... harp-rise/

You are on the right track. Keep digging. Look at Israel-the most vaccinated country in the world.

Here's one:
https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/2 ... -exceed-50

[franklinbluth]

It's hard to find articles that talk about breakthrough infections in regards to just the last few weeks of delta, rather than lumping all data together. In this article they talk about how breakthrough infections have increased to over 12% of cases in Delaware, and half of the deaths have been breakthrough cases.

https://whyy.org/articles/del-officials ... harp-rise/

You are on the right track. Keep digging. Look at Israel-the most vaccinated country in the world.

Israel hasn't been the most vaxed in several months. It's rate is close to the same as ours now.

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[alurker]

It's hard to find articles that talk about breakthrough infections in regards to just the last few weeks of delta, rather than lumping all data together. In this article they talk about how breakthrough infections have increased to over 12% of cases in Delaware, and half of the deaths have been breakthrough cases.

https://whyy.org/articles/del-officials ... harp-rise/

You are on the right track. Keep digging. Look at Israel-the most vaccinated country in the world.

Here's one:
https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/2 ... -exceed-50

Bingo. Why are breakthroughs happening? Leaky vaccines. Look at the viral loads of those who are vaccinated and get covid and those who are unvaccinated.

[alurker]

It's hard to find articles that talk about breakthrough infections in regards to just the last few weeks of delta, rather than lumping all data together. In this article they talk about how breakthrough infections have increased to over 12% of cases in Delaware, and half of the deaths have been breakthrough cases.

https://whyy.org/articles/del-officials ... harp-rise/

You are on the right track. Keep digging. Look at Israel-the most vaccinated country in the world.

Israel hasn't been the most vaxed in several months. It's rate is close to the same as ours now.

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The paid poster comes back!

[franklinbluth]

It's hard to find articles that talk about breakthrough infections in regards to just the last few weeks of delta, rather than lumping all data together. In this article they talk about how breakthrough infections have increased to over 12% of cases in Delaware, and half of the deaths have been breakthrough cases.

https://whyy.org/articles/del-officials ... harp-rise/

You are on the right track. Keep digging. Look at Israel-the most vaccinated country in the world.

Israel hasn't been the most vaxed in several months. It's rate is close to the same as ours now.

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The paid poster comes back!

Yes, how dare I interrupt the echo chamber with pesky facts.

[h_p]

Why are they even tracking breakthrough infections? Aren't they saying that there is no expectation that you won't get infected, and that the gene hack was only meant to keep you out of the hospital?

I know they were telling us a few months ago that the shot was going to end the pandemic if we could get 70% of the country needled up, but that was then, and we're supposed to forget all that, per the government censors.

But why bother even calling them breakthroughs? It's just "infections" now, right Anthony "Wizard of Oz" Fauci?

[Sarah]

Why are they even tracking breakthrough infections? Aren't they saying that there is no expectation that you won't get infected, and that the gene hack was only meant to keep you out of the hospital?

I know they were telling us a few months ago that the shot was going to end the pandemic if we could get 70% of the country needled up, but that was then, and we're supposed to forget all that, per the government censors.

But why bother even calling them breakthroughs? It's just "infections" now, right Anthony "Wizard of Oz" Fauci?

The claim though is that those who have breakthrough infections won't be as bad off as the unvaccinated. In other words, the vaccine gives you a better chance of surviving or staying out of the hospital. I'm just curious what the evidence is now to show that, and what it will be going forward to prove that this claim is true or not. Also curious know how well the booster works.

[tribrac]

Today the booster is 95 to 99 % effective in preventing severe infections.

Later they will change the definition of "severe infection" so the numbers back them up.

[h_p]

The claim though is that those who have breakthrough infections won't be as bad off as the unvaccinated. In other words, the vaccine gives you a better chance of surviving or staying out of the hospital. I'm just curious what the evidence is now to show that, and what it will be going forward to prove that this claim is true or not. Also curious know how well the booster works.

Right, it's just that not too long ago, they were telling everybody that if you get the shot, you won't even get sick. And not too long ago, you couldn't even talk about boosters. Now they're talking about them like it was the plan all along. The goalposts keep changing, and we're all supposed to not even question it.

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. Wizard of Oz meets 1984 meets Brave New World.

[DesertWonderer2]

A cruise ship w 100% vaxxed people is having cases.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.today. ... 8771269630

[jpark]

Next they are going to tell us that only those vaxxed with comorbidities are affected ... oh wait those with comorbities are the only people that ever had any risk. SMH

[Serragon]

Why are they even tracking breakthrough infections? Aren't they saying that there is no expectation that you won't get infected, and that the gene hack was only meant to keep you out of the hospital?

I know they were telling us a few months ago that the shot was going to end the pandemic if we could get 70% of the country needled up, but that was then, and we're supposed to forget all that, per the government censors.

But why bother even calling them breakthroughs? It's just "infections" now, right Anthony "Wizard of Oz" Fauci?

The claim though is that those who have breakthrough infections won't be as bad off as the unvaccinated. In other words, the vaccine gives you a better chance of surviving or staying out of the hospital. I'm just curious what the evidence is now to show that, and what it will be going forward to prove that this claim is true or not. Also curious know how well the booster works.

I don't think anyone actually knows. There isn't enough data.

The Delta variant is less lethal than previous variants. So it is unknown whether the shots give you extra protection, or whether it is simply the variant itself.

We do know that the Pfizer and J&J shots are less effective preventing Delta to the point that they would not be approved as vaccines if they were running trials today. Both are below 50%. The Moderna has better numbers, but it appears those trials were done prior to Delta being the dominant strain, so who actually knows.

[TheDuke]

We don't even know what the Delta variant is. It is undefined by WHO and CDC. It is a random collection of Corona Virus related infections. We don't even have a real test for COVID-19, it is still SARS-COV-2. So, I don't believe any of the numbers. What they are running $10Ks per test for some DNA sequence on millions of patients?

Things are worse, I think lets say vax works, you still get the disease but you don't feel sick. You do your thing, you spread it. It gets to 10-50 X people because millions of infected are asymptomatic but they don't even know it. Say it is 90% effective but 10% still need hospitals but 50x more exposed..............500% increase. Just doing random math, do your own, either way if you make sick people think they are healthy then you kill more people..

[kirtland r.m.]

SALT LAKE CITY — As 12 more deaths due to COVID-19 and 2,423 cases were reported Monday from the previous three days, state health officials said those without vaccinations have died or experienced serious illness at exponentially higher rates than those who were vaccinated.

"In the last 28 days, people who are unvaccinated are at 5.4 times greater risk of dying from COVID-19, 6.5 times greater risk of being hospitalized due to COVID-19, and 5.0 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 than vaccinated people," officials with the Utah Department of Health said in a statement.

If this is correct, there are thousands of breakthrough cases in Utah in the last month.https://www.ksl.com/article/50224226/ut ... -12-deaths

[Sarah]

SALT LAKE CITY — As 12 more deaths due to COVID-19 and 2,423 cases were reported Monday from the previous three days, state health officials said those without vaccinations have died or experienced serious illness at exponentially higher rates than those who were vaccinated.

"In the last 28 days, people who are unvaccinated are at 5.4 times greater risk of dying from COVID-19, 6.5 times greater risk of being hospitalized due to COVID-19, and 5.0 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 than vaccinated people," officials with the Utah Department of Health said in a statement.

If this is correct, there are thousands of breakthrough cases in Utah in the last month.https://www.ksl.com/article/50224226/ut ... -12-deaths

Yeah, don't you love how they never actually tell you the actual numbers, only what percentage risk one has. It's obvious that they don't want to talk about actual numbers or breakthrough deaths and hospitalizations.

[markharr]

SALT LAKE CITY — As 12 more deaths due to COVID-19 and 2,423 cases were reported Monday from the previous three days, state health officials said those without vaccinations have died or experienced serious illness at exponentially higher rates than those who were vaccinated.

"In the last 28 days, people who are unvaccinated are at 5.4 times greater risk of dying from COVID-19, 6.5 times greater risk of being hospitalized due to COVID-19, and 5.0 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 than vaccinated people," officials with the Utah Department of Health said in a statement.

If this is correct, there are thousands of breakthrough cases in Utah in the last month.https://www.ksl.com/article/50224226/ut ... -12-deaths

One of the biggest reasons that makes me not trust this vaccine is they want us all dead. Some of them will tell you that to your face. We stop them from building their socialist utopia and we destroy the planet so they want is dead. Now I am supposed to believe they want to help me avoid dying from Covid?

[dewajack]

https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-bu ... c5cd6d1030

https://apnews.com/article/science-heal ... 12b5ef84d1

[TheDuke]

Bill Gates, largest advocate and financier for vaccines in the past 30 years says the only way to reduce global population without war to save the planet is via vaccines........................................ I guess this should at least speak for what aspects of vaccines his money is spent on.

[tribrac]

SALT LAKE CITY — As 12 more deaths due to COVID-19 and 2,423 cases were reported Monday from the previous three days, state health officials said those without vaccinations have died or experienced serious illness at exponentially higher rates than those who were vaccinated.

"In the last 28 days, people who are unvaccinated are at 5.4 times greater risk of dying from COVID-19, 6.5 times greater risk of being hospitalized due to COVID-19, and 5.0 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 than vaccinated people," officials with the Utah Department of Health said in a statement.

If this is correct, there are thousands of breakthrough cases in Utah in the last month.https://www.ksl.com/article/50224226/ut ... -12-deaths

Yeah, don't you love how they never actually tell you the actual numbers, only what percentage risk one has. It's obvious that they don't want to talk about actual numbers or breakthrough deaths and hospitalizations.

Its those clear deceptions that creates doubt and suspicion in the public.

It is so blantant and obvious.

Do they think we are that dumb?
Are the news media that dumb?


Sometimes i wonder if some media members (and governor Cox) have become committed to proving they are smarter and should have been followed. Their resentment of the public for not blindly following them drives them to a deeper commitment to their position, and gives them false justification for them to make blantantly deceptive statements.

Or as someone else suggested it is a deliberate technique to cause cognitive dissonance in people who are capable of critical thinking.

[Lemarque]

SALT LAKE CITY — As 12 more deaths due to COVID-19 and 2,423 cases were reported Monday from the previous three days, state health officials said those without vaccinations have died or experienced serious illness at exponentially higher rates than those who were vaccinated.

"In the last 28 days, people who are unvaccinated are at 5.4 times greater risk of dying from COVID-19, 6.5 times greater risk of being hospitalized due to COVID-19, and 5.0 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 than vaccinated people," officials with the Utah Department of Health said in a statement.

If this is correct, there are thousands of breakthrough cases in Utah in the last month.https://www.ksl.com/article/50224226/ut ... -12-deaths

Yeah, don't you love how they never actually tell you the actual numbers, only what percentage risk one has. It's obvious that they don't want to talk about actual numbers or breakthrough deaths and hospitalizations.

Until last week, Utah did have share the numbers on the coronavirus site. It showed the total number of infections, hospitalizations, and deaths in those who were fully vaccinated. I download the data on Fridays to look at it and this past Friday they didn't have those numbers anymore. Just the rates.

[franklinbluth]

SALT LAKE CITY — As 12 more deaths due to COVID-19 and 2,423 cases were reported Monday from the previous three days, state health officials said those without vaccinations have died or experienced serious illness at exponentially higher rates than those who were vaccinated.

"In the last 28 days, people who are unvaccinated are at 5.4 times greater risk of dying from COVID-19, 6.5 times greater risk of being hospitalized due to COVID-19, and 5.0 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 than vaccinated people," officials with the Utah Department of Health said in a statement.

If this is correct, there are thousands of breakthrough cases in Utah in the last month.https://www.ksl.com/article/50224226/ut ... -12-deaths

Yeah, don't you love how they never actually tell you the actual numbers, only what percentage risk one has. It's obvious that they don't want to talk about actual numbers or breakthrough deaths and hospitalizations.

You can always just look them up:
https://coronavirus.utah.gov/case-counts/

[truefreedom]

SALT LAKE CITY — As 12 more deaths due to COVID-19 and 2,423 cases were reported Monday from the previous three days, state health officials said those without vaccinations have died or experienced serious illness at exponentially higher rates than those who were vaccinated.

"In the last 28 days, people who are unvaccinated are at 5.4 times greater risk of dying from COVID-19, 6.5 times greater risk of being hospitalized due to COVID-19, and 5.0 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 than vaccinated people," officials with the Utah Department of Health said in a statement.

If this is correct, there are thousands of breakthrough cases in Utah in the last month.https://www.ksl.com/article/50224226/ut ... -12-deaths

Yeah, don't you love how they never actually tell you the actual numbers, only what percentage risk one has. It's obvious that they don't want to talk about actual numbers or breakthrough deaths and hospitalizations.

You can always just look them up:
https://coronavirus.utah.gov/case-counts/

I can't see anything on that link about breakthrough cases.