Temple interview on zoom

[Zathura]

So what if we don't have "Zoom?"

Or you refuse to use Chinese spyware like me. Just because the church invested millions into Zoom doesn't mean it's an appropriate use of technology.

Lol.

Zoom is not Chinese spyware.

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/zoom-sec ... ivacy-woes

The link above has all the current security and privacy issues with Zoom with the dates they were disclosed this year. Enough said.

I work at a university as part of the Network and IT department and we've banned Zoom for use for any official university communication. Our internal security audit has labeled it unsafe.

I would DEFINITELY not trust it for a worthiness interview where personal information is disclosed.

Even when they sort out their "End to End" encryption, the implementation of it is not secure as they still have the ability to do man in the middle attacks.

Cool, other universities and large TECH corporations are fine with it and did not label it unsafe. That includes the Church which most definitely does it’s due diligence and will have had security experts determine for them if Zoom is okay for the needs of the church.The link you provided shows no large security issue.

2FA is recommended for literally everything now. The 2FA recommendation doesn’t mean that zoom is insecure.

It’s also common sense that if you have an open zoom meeting there’s a possibility for literally anyone to join. Duh. Same goes for any chat room/conference call software that ever existed . This is not ZOOMS problem, this is the problem of the person setting up the call. Learn how to configure the software you’re using.

And again, their encryption IS secure, it’s just not as secure as newer methods that others are moving to. Beyond that, they have implemented a more secure but optional encryption method. It’s your choice if you don’t use it.

And again, it is NOT “Chinese spyware”. You’ve only enforced what I’ve said.

[Zathura]

Time and time again, false claims are made and are “thanked” by a large number of people and posts containing the facts are overlooked.

People really ought to stop seeking to confirm their biases and instead go where the facts lead them

[Sunain]

2FA is recommended for literally everything now. The 2FA recommendation doesn’t mean that zoom is insecure.

2FA isn't the issue at all. If you are willing to trust a closed source, Chinese based video conferencing system, that's your prerogative.

Telling people that it's safe to use though with it's ties to the CCP and to use it for official church interviews, is not acceptable.

Time and time again, false claims are made and are “thanked” by a large number of people and posts containing the facts are overlooked.

People really ought to stop seeking to confirm their biases and instead go where the facts lead them

I just gave you a list from EXTREMELY reputable tech site saying the security and privacy issues, from this year alone and you dismissed it outright. I can't help you there man.

That list is only the revealed stuff. With the way the CCP has been acting lately and with the current political climate, I would err on the side of caution.

[Luke]

I think a major issue in the church right now is the number of people serving without correct authority.
We have people serving on bishoprics that have never been set apart or ordained as high priests, and the same with high councils etc. In our ward the entire Elders Quorum Presidency have never been set apart. Makes a bit of a mockery of the EQP holding "keys".

• "Among many other things stated by President Taylor on this occasion was this: 'I would be surprised if ten per cent of those who claim to hold the Melchisedek Priesthood will remain true and faithful to the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, at the time of the seventh president, and that there would be thousands that think they hold the Priesthood at that time, but would not have it properly conferred upon them.'" (Lorin C. Woolley, as quoted in Supplement to the New and Everlasting Covenant of Marriage, pg. 61)

[Zathura]

2FA is recommended for literally everything now. The 2FA recommendation doesn’t mean that zoom is insecure.

2FA isn't the issue at all. If you are willing to trust a closed source, Chinese based video conferencing system, that's your prerogative.

Telling people that it's safe to use though with it's ties to the CCP and to use it for official church interviews, is not acceptable.

Time and time again, false claims are made and are “thanked” by a large number of people and posts containing the facts are overlooked.

People really ought to stop seeking to confirm their biases and instead go where the facts lead them

I just gave you a list from EXTREMELY reputable tech site saying the security and privacy issues, from this year alone and you dismissed it outright. I can't help you there man.

That list is only the revealed stuff. With the way the CCP has been acting lately and with the current political climate, I would err on the side of caution.

It is not Chinese based. The founder is a Chinese-American man. Not the same thing. There are arms of the company that have connectikns

Your list did not provide anything that proves Zoom to be as unsafe as you are making it out to be. I know what toms guide is. I didn’t dismiss it at all. It just doesn’t back up what you’re saying in any way.

It is not recommended if you are discussing STATE SECRETS. This isn’t because it’s EASY to exploit, but that it eventually COULD be exploited. Your little conversation with your bishop is secure enough for anybody that’ll ever want to take a look.

It is standard in the tech world to apply different solutions to different problems.

You do not need industrial fridges and soap in your home. You do not need bullet proof glass . Are you going to refuse to buy a home because it doesn’t have bullet proof glass or a car because it isn’t armored?

Of course not. But because it’s just something else about the church that we get to whine about, we will blow things out of proportion and complain that the church isn’t giving you a bullet proof armored vehicle for your 20 minute chat with the Bishop.

[Zathura]

And again, like ALL STARTUPS they have to abandon certain features until it’s feasible to develop them.

Guess what? They exploded and had the cash to acquire a security encryption company and implement more secure features. Crazy how that works

[Sunain]

It is not Chinese based. The founder is a Chinese-American man. Not the same thing.

I think you need to do some more research before you go around spouting to people here that we are in the wrong for thanking people for their comments.

Zoom is a U.S.-founded company and its founder Eric Yuan is a Chinese immigrant who is now an American citizen. However, the company’s development team is “largely” based in China, according to Zoom’s regulatory filing from earlier this year.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/03/zoom-to ... china.html

Of course not. But because it’s just something else about the church that we get to whine about, we will blow things out of proportion and complain that the church isn’t giving you a bullet proof armored vehicle for your 20 minute chat with the Bishop.

No one is whining. The church should not be using proprietary technology for interviews. Many members don't even have access, money, internet connection speed or technical knowledge to even do a video chat. If they are not going to do them in-person, the only alternative should be by phone and even then that's stretching it for a worthiness interview.

With Zoom's track record on privacy and security, it's not a reputable company. There are other alternatives.

[Fred]

So what if we don't have "Zoom?"

Or you refuse to use Chinese spyware like me. Just because the church invested millions into Zoom doesn't mean it's an appropriate use of technology.

Lol.

Zoom is not Chinese spyware.

The software doesn’t even have a vulnerability that’s being exploited. The news that broke merely pointed out a potential exploit. Zoom immediately made changes to prevent this.

The company merely uses data centers in China( in addition to data centers in regions everywhere else in the world. It’s important to have data centers in every region . If you’ve used any online service being hosted in a region across the world you’ll know why ) and the type of encryption they use means that China could theoretically demand the key to decrypt these calls due to their law.

Just because the internet says something doesn’t make it true.

But hey, this forum clearly doesn’t care about facts.

Claims that it is a Chinese company, like NANCY PELOSI claimed, are false. Claims that they use “their own definition or end to end encryption “ are false. Their encryption is secure and is an internationally recognized standard , it’s just simply something that many companies are now moving on from.

The only thing China related that you can criticize zoom for is deleting accounts at the request of the Chinese government , but even then Zoom reversed and restored the accounts.

But yeah, who cares about facts.

Just imagine if the church tasked a few techies lounging around to design a new video teleconferencing platform and made it open source? Free to everyone on earth. No profit for the church. The possibility does not even exist that anyone would ever claim spyware because every person has access to the code. It could be like OpenOffice.org. Google copied it and called it google docs. Microshaft only wishes they had as good of an office software. It is FREE and the best at what it does. Some people like to pay Microshaft, but people with brains use OpenOffice.

[Zathura]

So what if we don't have "Zoom?"

Or you refuse to use Chinese spyware like me. Just because the church invested millions into Zoom doesn't mean it's an appropriate use of technology.

Lol.

Zoom is not Chinese spyware.

The software doesn’t even have a vulnerability that’s being exploited. The news that broke merely pointed out a potential exploit. Zoom immediately made changes to prevent this.

The company merely uses data centers in China( in addition to data centers in regions everywhere else in the world. It’s important to have data centers in every region . If you’ve used any online service being hosted in a region across the world you’ll know why ) and the type of encryption they use means that China could theoretically demand the key to decrypt these calls due to their law.

Just because the internet says something doesn’t make it true.

But hey, this forum clearly doesn’t care about facts.

Claims that it is a Chinese company, like NANCY PELOSI claimed, are false. Claims that they use “their own definition or end to end encryption “ are false. Their encryption is secure and is an internationally recognized standard , it’s just simply something that many companies are now moving on from.

The only thing China related that you can criticize zoom for is deleting accounts at the request of the Chinese government , but even then Zoom reversed and restored the accounts.

But yeah, who cares about facts.

Just imagine if the church tasked a few techies lounging around to design a new video teleconferencing platform and made it open source? Free to everyone on earth. No profit for the church. The possibility does not even exist that anyone would ever claim spyware because every person has access to the code. It could be like OpenOffice.org. Google copied it and called it google docs. Microshaft only wishes they had as good of an office software. It is FREE and the best at what it does. Some people like to pay Microshaft, but people with brains use OpenOffice.

Just like that eh? Just a couple techies?

And what servers will handle the streaming? How will they be paid for? Who will setup and maintain security?

[Fred]

Or you refuse to use Chinese spyware like me. Just because the church invested millions into Zoom doesn't mean it's an appropriate use of technology.

Lol.

Zoom is not Chinese spyware.

The software doesn’t even have a vulnerability that’s being exploited. The news that broke merely pointed out a potential exploit. Zoom immediately made changes to prevent this.

The company merely uses data centers in China( in addition to data centers in regions everywhere else in the world. It’s important to have data centers in every region . If you’ve used any online service being hosted in a region across the world you’ll know why ) and the type of encryption they use means that China could theoretically demand the key to decrypt these calls due to their law.

Just because the internet says something doesn’t make it true.

But hey, this forum clearly doesn’t care about facts.

Claims that it is a Chinese company, like NANCY PELOSI claimed, are false. Claims that they use “their own definition or end to end encryption “ are false. Their encryption is secure and is an internationally recognized standard , it’s just simply something that many companies are now moving on from.

The only thing China related that you can criticize zoom for is deleting accounts at the request of the Chinese government , but even then Zoom reversed and restored the accounts.

But yeah, who cares about facts.

Just imagine if the church tasked a few techies lounging around to design a new video teleconferencing platform and made it open source? Free to everyone on earth. No profit for the church. The possibility does not even exist that anyone would ever claim spyware because every person has access to the code. It could be like OpenOffice.org. Google copied it and called it google docs. Microshaft only wishes they had as good of an office software. It is FREE and the best at what it does. Some people like to pay Microshaft, but people with brains use OpenOffice.

Just like that eh? Just a couple techies?

And what servers will handle the streaming? How will they be paid for? Who will setup and maintain security?

The church already has massive data centers. How do you think Apache and the multitude of companies before them that sponsor the costs of developers and such for OpenOffice which is given away freely? Why do you think thousands of developers work for free to develop existing as well as new flavors of Linux which has a selling price of zero? By the way, some are paid quite well. How do you think the church builds hundred million dollar temples and charges no admission? Because they are doing the work of the Lord and the money is provided even without tithing.

[Zathura]

Lol.

Zoom is not Chinese spyware.

The software doesn’t even have a vulnerability that’s being exploited. The news that broke merely pointed out a potential exploit. Zoom immediately made changes to prevent this.

The company merely uses data centers in China( in addition to data centers in regions everywhere else in the world. It’s important to have data centers in every region . If you’ve used any online service being hosted in a region across the world you’ll know why ) and the type of encryption they use means that China could theoretically demand the key to decrypt these calls due to their law.

Just because the internet says something doesn’t make it true.

But hey, this forum clearly doesn’t care about facts.

Claims that it is a Chinese company, like NANCY PELOSI claimed, are false. Claims that they use “their own definition or end to end encryption “ are false. Their encryption is secure and is an internationally recognized standard , it’s just simply something that many companies are now moving on from.

The only thing China related that you can criticize zoom for is deleting accounts at the request of the Chinese government , but even then Zoom reversed and restored the accounts.

But yeah, who cares about facts.

Just imagine if the church tasked a few techies lounging around to design a new video teleconferencing platform and made it open source? Free to everyone on earth. No profit for the church. The possibility does not even exist that anyone would ever claim spyware because every person has access to the code. It could be like OpenOffice.org. Google copied it and called it google docs. Microshaft only wishes they had as good of an office software. It is FREE and the best at what it does. Some people like to pay Microshaft, but people with brains use OpenOffice.

Just like that eh? Just a couple techies?

And what servers will handle the streaming? How will they be paid for? Who will setup and maintain security?

The church already has massive data centers. How do you think Apache and the multitude of companies before them that sponsor the costs of developers and such for OpenOffice which is given away freely? Why do you think thousands of developers work for free to develop existing as well as new flavors of Linux which has a selling price of zero? By the way, some are paid quite well. How do you think the church builds hundred million dollar temples and charges no admission? Because they are doing the work of the Lord and the money is provided even without tithing.

What you’re talking about goes well behind simple “open source”. It’s one thing to build a piece of software that’s open source allowing developers around the world to contribute to source code. It’s an entirely other to actually deploy that code on servers and handle the vast amount of traffic that video streaming introduces.

If it was that simple and necessary , somebody would have done it by now.

OpenOffice is a simple application that opens on your desktop.

Instead , the church decided to use a platform that’s perfectly fine in spite of what people on the internet claim.

[Fred]

Just imagine if the church tasked a few techies lounging around to design a new video teleconferencing platform and made it open source? Free to everyone on earth. No profit for the church. The possibility does not even exist that anyone would ever claim spyware because every person has access to the code. It could be like OpenOffice.org. Google copied it and called it google docs. Microshaft only wishes they had as good of an office software. It is FREE and the best at what it does. Some people like to pay Microshaft, but people with brains use OpenOffice.

Just like that eh? Just a couple techies?

And what servers will handle the streaming? How will they be paid for? Who will setup and maintain security?

The church already has massive data centers. How do you think Apache and the multitude of companies before them that sponsor the costs of developers and such for OpenOffice which is given away freely? Why do you think thousands of developers work for free to develop existing as well as new flavors of Linux which has a selling price of zero? By the way, some are paid quite well. How do you think the church builds hundred million dollar temples and charges no admission? Because they are doing the work of the Lord and the money is provided even without tithing.

What you’re talking about goes well behind simple “open source”. It’s one thing to build a piece of software that’s open source allowing developers around the world to contribute to source code. It’s an entirely other to actually deploy that code on servers and handle the vast amount of traffic that video streaming introduces.

If it was that simple and necessary , somebody would have done it by now.

OpenOffice is a simple application that opens on your desktop.

Instead , the church decided to use a platform that’s perfectly fine in spite of what people on the internet claim.

Gee, do you mean like a Linux server? The most trusted server platform on earth? Open Source. Yup. Even Microshaft is not stupid enough to trust sensitive data to a windoze server. Linux is open source and streams over 90% of all streams. No software in existence is as critical to be done right as is an operating system on a server.

[Silver Pie]

but people with brains use OpenOffice.

Or LibreOffice (I have both. I got LibreOffice when OO became unavailable for a while a few years ago).

[Zathura]

Just like that eh? Just a couple techies?

And what servers will handle the streaming? How will they be paid for? Who will setup and maintain security?

The church already has massive data centers. How do you think Apache and the multitude of companies before them that sponsor the costs of developers and such for OpenOffice which is given away freely? Why do you think thousands of developers work for free to develop existing as well as new flavors of Linux which has a selling price of zero? By the way, some are paid quite well. How do you think the church builds hundred million dollar temples and charges no admission? Because they are doing the work of the Lord and the money is provided even without tithing.

What you’re talking about goes well behind simple “open source”. It’s one thing to build a piece of software that’s open source allowing developers around the world to contribute to source code. It’s an entirely other to actually deploy that code on servers and handle the vast amount of traffic that video streaming introduces.

If it was that simple and necessary , somebody would have done it by now.

OpenOffice is a simple application that opens on your desktop.

Instead , the church decided to use a platform that’s perfectly fine in spite of what people on the internet claim.

Gee, do you mean like a Linux server? The most trusted server platform on earth? Open Source. Yup. Even Microshaft is not stupid enough to trust sensitive data to a windoze server. Linux is open source and streams over 90% of all streams. No software in existence is as critical to be done right as is an operating system on a server.

Okay, you don’t know what I’m saying and it’s pointless trying to help you understand what you’re missing

[Thinker]

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/zoom-sec ... ivacy-woes

The link above has all the current security and privacy issues with Zoom with the dates they were disclosed this year. Enough said.

I work at a university as part of the Network and IT department and we've banned Zoom for use for any official university communication. Our internal security audit has labeled it unsafe.

I would DEFINITELY not trust it for a worthiness interview where personal information is disclosed.

Talk about blackmail, & dealing with China who’s oppressing their people with the social credit system. I would definitely not trust it at all, but especially for such personal information.

[Thinker]

The church already has massive data centers. How do you think Apache and the multitude of companies before them that sponsor the costs of developers and such for OpenOffice which is given away freely? Why do you think thousands of developers work for free to develop existing as well as new flavors of Linux which has a selling price of zero? By the way, some are paid quite well. How do you think the church builds hundred million dollar temples and charges no admission?...

Good points.
Makes me wonder what the church does with all that info., especially considering it’s the current big-ticket commodity.

In today’s climate of push toward biogenetics & OI (I meant AI, but we love OI ), I’m glad I didn’t give my DNA, but worry for those who have.

August 2020:
“Ancestry’s treasure trove of people’s DNA all across the world has just been sold for nearly $5 billion.

Blackstone, a private equity firm, acquired the global genealogy company for a ‘total enterprise value of $4.7 billion’, thereby moving Ancestry’s assets from several other firms.”
https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/ancestrys ... 5-billion/

“Free memberships to Ancestry® are available to members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Over 99% of the 33,000 collections on Ancestry are available with the Church of Jesus Christ-Ancestry Membership”
https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/ ... Membership

My favorite teacher has a sign, “There’s no free lunch.” Everything has a cost. What’s the cost? ^

[TheDuke]

I work at a very large technology company with draconian IT. We use Zoom for proprietary unclassified meetings and would not were it truly unsafe if set up correctly.

I like zoom recommends. Easier to schedule and mine was quite spiritual.

[Zathura]

The church already has massive data centers. How do you think Apache and the multitude of companies before them that sponsor the costs of developers and such for OpenOffice which is given away freely? Why do you think thousands of developers work for free to develop existing as well as new flavors of Linux which has a selling price of zero? By the way, some are paid quite well. How do you think the church builds hundred million dollar temples and charges no admission?...

Good points.
Makes me wonder what the church does with all that info., especially considering it’s the current big-ticket commodity.

In today’s climate of push toward biogenetics & OI (I meant AI, but we love OI ), I’m glad I didn’t give my DNA, but worry for those who have.

August 2020:
“Ancestry’s treasure trove of people’s DNA all across the world has just been sold for nearly $5 billion.

Blackstone, a private equity firm, acquired the global genealogy company for a ‘total enterprise value of $4.7 billion’, thereby moving Ancestry’s assets from several other firms.”
https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/ancestrys ... 5-billion/

“Free memberships to Ancestry® are available to members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Over 99% of the 33,000 collections on Ancestry are available with the Church of Jesus Christ-Ancestry Membership”
https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/ ... Membership

My favorite teacher has a sign, “There’s no free lunch.” Everything has a cost. What’s the cost? ^

They really aren't good points , but they might sound like good points to people that lack knowledge in this area(including the person who made the "good points").

[InfoWarrior82]

The church already has massive data centers. How do you think Apache and the multitude of companies before them that sponsor the costs of developers and such for OpenOffice which is given away freely? Why do you think thousands of developers work for free to develop existing as well as new flavors of Linux which has a selling price of zero? By the way, some are paid quite well. How do you think the church builds hundred million dollar temples and charges no admission?...

Good points.
Makes me wonder what the church does with all that info., especially considering it’s the current big-ticket commodity.

In today’s climate of push toward biogenetics & OI (I meant AI, but we love OI ), I’m glad I didn’t give my DNA, but worry for those who have.

August 2020:
“Ancestry’s treasure trove of people’s DNA all across the world has just been sold for nearly $5 billion.

Blackstone, a private equity firm, acquired the global genealogy company for a ‘total enterprise value of $4.7 billion’, thereby moving Ancestry’s assets from several other firms.”
https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/ancestrys ... 5-billion/

“Free memberships to Ancestry® are available to members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Over 99% of the 33,000 collections on Ancestry are available with the Church of Jesus Christ-Ancestry Membership”
https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/ ... Membership

My favorite teacher has a sign, “There’s no free lunch.” Everything has a cost. What’s the cost? ^

Well... their ally, Klaus Schwab, is very open about what he would like to do with that information:

Klaus Schwab: Great Reset Will “Lead to a Fusion of Our Physical, Digital and Biological Identity”

Implantable microchips that can read your thoughts.

Globalist Klaus Schwab made it clear that transhumanism is an integral part of “The Great Reset” when he said that the fourth industrial revolution would “lead to a fusion of our physical, digital and biological identity,” which in his book he clarifies is implantable microchips that can read your thoughts.

As we highlighted earlier, “The Great Reset” is attracting a deluge of fresh attention in the aftermath of the coronavirus pandemic, which Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said was an “opportunity for a reset.”

The agenda is primarily based around dismantling the current capitalist system in favor of greater centralized technocrat rule which will lead to lower living standards, less fuel consumption, fewer civil liberties and the accelerated automation of jobs.

However, another key aspect to “The Great Reset,” or the “fourth industrial revolution” as Schwab calls it, is merging man with machine.

“What the fourth industrial revolution will lead to is a fusion of our physical, digital and biological identity,” Schwab told the Chicago Council on Global Affairs.

Schwab went on to explain how his book, ‘Shaping the Future of The Fourth Industrial Revolution’, was particularly popular in China, South Korea and Japan, with the South Korean military alone purchasing 16,000 copies.

In the book, Schwab explains with excitement how upcoming technology will allow authorities to “intrude into the hitherto private space of our minds, reading our thoughts and influencing our behavior.”

He goes on to predict that this will provide an incentive for law enforcement to implement Minority Report-style pre-crime programs.

“As capabilities in this area improve, the temptation for law enforcement agencies and courts to use techniques to determine the likelihood of criminal activity, assess guilt or even possibly retrieve memories directly from people’s brains will increase,” writes Schwab. “Even crossing a national border might one day involve a detailed brain scan to assess an individual’s security risk.”

Schwab also waxes lyrical about the transhumanist utopian dream shared by all elitists which will ultimately lead to the creation of human cyborgs.

“Fourth Industrial Revolution technologies will not stop at becoming part of the physical world around us—they will become part of us,” writes Schwab.

[Thinker]

The church already has massive data centers. How do you think Apache and the multitude of companies before them that sponsor the costs of developers and such for OpenOffice which is given away freely? Why do you think thousands of developers work for free to develop existing as well as new flavors of Linux which has a selling price of zero? By the way, some are paid quite well. How do you think the church builds hundred million dollar temples and charges no admission?...

Good points.
Makes me wonder what the church does with all that info., especially considering it’s the current big-ticket commodity.

In today’s climate of push toward biogenetics & OI (I meant AI, but we love OI ), I’m glad I didn’t give my DNA, but worry for those who have.

August 2020:
“Ancestry’s treasure trove of people’s DNA all across the world has just been sold for nearly $5 billion.

Blackstone, a private equity firm, acquired the global genealogy company for a ‘total enterprise value of $4.7 billion’, thereby moving Ancestry’s assets from several other firms.”
https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/ancestrys ... 5-billion/

“Free memberships to Ancestry® are available to members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Over 99% of the 33,000 collections on Ancestry are available with the Church of Jesus Christ-Ancestry Membership”
https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/ ... Membership

My favorite teacher has a sign, “There’s no free lunch.” Everything has a cost. What’s the cost? ^

Well... their ally, Klaus Schwab, is very open about what he would like to do with that information:

Klaus Schwab: Great Reset Will “Lead to a Fusion of Our Physical, Digital and Biological Identity”

Implantable microchips that can read your thoughts.

Globalist Klaus Schwab made it clear that transhumanism is an integral part of “The Great Reset” when he said that the fourth industrial revolution would “lead to a fusion of our physical, digital and biological identity,” which in his book he clarifies is implantable microchips that can read your thoughts.

As we highlighted earlier, “The Great Reset” is attracting a deluge of fresh attention in the aftermath of the coronavirus pandemic, which Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said was an “opportunity for a reset.”

The agenda is primarily based around dismantling the current capitalist system in favor of greater centralized technocrat rule which will lead to lower living standards, less fuel consumption, fewer civil liberties and the accelerated automation of jobs.

However, another key aspect to “The Great Reset,” or the “fourth industrial revolution” as Schwab calls it, is merging man with machine.

“What the fourth industrial revolution will lead to is a fusion of our physical, digital and biological identity,” Schwab told the Chicago Council on Global Affairs.

Schwab went on to explain how his book, ‘Shaping the Future of The Fourth Industrial Revolution’, was particularly popular in China, South Korea and Japan, with the South Korean military alone purchasing 16,000 copies.

In the book, Schwab explains with excitement how upcoming technology will allow authorities to “intrude into the hitherto private space of our minds, reading our thoughts and influencing our behavior.”

He goes on to predict that this will provide an incentive for law enforcement to implement Minority Report-style pre-crime programs.

“As capabilities in this area improve, the temptation for law enforcement agencies and courts to use techniques to determine the likelihood of criminal activity, assess guilt or even possibly retrieve memories directly from people’s brains will increase,” writes Schwab. “Even crossing a national border might one day involve a detailed brain scan to assess an individual’s security risk.”

Schwab also waxes lyrical about the transhumanist utopian dream shared by all elitists which will ultimately lead to the creation of human cyborgs.

“Fourth Industrial Revolution technologies will not stop at becoming part of the physical world around us—they will become part of us,” writes Schwab.

Unbelievable.
I am struggling to understand how some people can think, plan & act in such evil ways. I know there is good in everyone - even child molesters - but it seems like they had to twist into spiritual and mental knot after knot for years to get to the point of such betrayal.

People trust government & religious leaders - many support them - only for this?

[cyclOps]

I definitely don’t want China to know if there are serious sins in my life that need to be resolved with priesthood authorities as part of my repentance?

[Thinker]

I was going to add:

July 2017:
Blackstone Group to Buy Stake in Israeli Firm Behind Gov Surveillance Software
https://www.mintpressnews.com/blackston ... re/230073/

August 2020:
ANCESTRY DNA data SOLD to the highest bidder: Blackstone. Actually Singapore co, GIC, still has some ownership.

• ”Blackstone buying Ancestry.com for $4.7 billion
  ...GIC will continue to retain a "significant minority stake" in the company. Bloomberg reported that GIC will own about 25% of the company and Blackstone will own 75%...”

"...if you sent your DNA to Ancestry, Blackstone has it now. Here’s how you can remove it."
https://www.komando.com/security-privac ... ow/748931/

[oneClimbs]

If you have a phone, or computer, or anything connected to the internet, social media accounts, an ldsff account, email, etc. you are being spied on. Now, I seriously doubt that any government cares about normal people just going about their lives, but we are all already participating in a web of spyware to one degree or another.

All tools can be used for good or ill. We can avoid these tools and perhaps have a little more privacy and protection. I do think some tools are less useful than others. Or we can use them in a manner that helps us do the work of the Lord with as little risk as possible.

There are many precautions you can take. It’s risky to have a social security number, have a house, own a car, drive on tax-payer funded roads.

Jesus grew up in a Jerusalem controlled by Rome but that didn’t stop the work. Nothing stops the work. I think the church understands the risks. My ward was using zoom for sacrament meetings then the church installed their own camera and their own official video feed website that looked like something for conference. Perhaps they are developing something proprietary for interviews and suggest Zoom for now. I would trust Zoom over Microsoft (Bill Gates) owned Skype.

[Thinker]

True that it’s already known that privacy is invaded via “cookies,” etc. The patriot act was an excuse. Yet, threats are becoming bigger. China has implemented the social credit system - which spies on people & punishes them for not being their particular demanded version of “good citizen.” There’s a push in the US for biogenetics - just look at the 2021 youth manual. And why on earth would some church leaders demand people go online for church rather than continue to have “home centered church”?

What was the real cost for members to submit their DNA & have a “free membership” to ancestry? Ancestry just sold all that DNA to Blackstone. A few years ago, Blackstone bought up an Israeli software behind. government surveillance.

“Blackstone Announces Majority Stake in the Largest Logistics Park in China's Greater Bay Area 09 November 2020 HONG KONG, November 10, 2020 -“
https://www.blackstone.com/press-releas ... -bay-area/

[EmmaLee]

I think the endowment should be done via Zoom, too. Our homes are supposed to be temples, so.... why not? We can watch a filmstrip at home just as easily as we can at the temple, and it doesn't require wasting hours in the car, driving to and from the temple, and the gas it takes, too. Now that fear rules the temples, as well, and there is no touching (except at the veil, and we could figure something out with that, I'm sure), why not just dedicate our homes to the work?