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Zathura wrote: November 6th, 2020, 9:30 am Idk, a few things . Women turned off by his behavior. Seniors who were duped into believing that his response to Covid put them in danger , massive efforts to demonize Trump and turn that into ballots in big cities, doing everything they can to get blacks to vote Biden. I'll bet the votes that made the difference aren't people who care anything about politics . They just were taught to hate Trump and someone got them to vote Biden and turn their ballot in for them or help them send it out.
See, this is what baffles me to no end. But then I remember that the vast majority of people, and 100% of the people who would consider voting Democrat, only get their news/info from mainstream media, and then all becomes clear.

Yes, Trump's behavior toward women, at times, has been gross. Yet it is nothing compared to Biden's revolting, CRIMINAL behavior toward women AND YOUNG GIRLS. Like him raping Terra Reid, and all the groping of girls (on camera, no less), etc. Biden should be in prison, not the White House. But none of this - ZERO - has been broadcast at any length, or with any degree of seriousness, on mainstream media.

Seniors - who was it that murdered all the seniors in the nursing homes? Oh yeah, DEMOCRATS - people who are like Biden and who vote for Biden. But all that just gets ignored by the mainstream media, which is the only news source for the deluded.

Blacks - to my knowledge, Trump has never uttered a racist word in his life. He had a black girlfriend. For all his faults, he's not a racist - that is a pure fiction created by socialists and perpetuated on their 100% controlled mainstream media - and most people are too dumb/lazy to find out the facts for themselves. Biden, however, is a blatant and ACTUAL racist - which can be verified easily by listening to his own mouth utter actual racist words, numerous times on many different occasions.

A clear pattern here, IMO.

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EmmaLee wrote: November 6th, 2020, 10:09 am
Zathura wrote: November 6th, 2020, 9:30 am Idk, a few things . Women turned off by his behavior. Seniors who were duped into believing that his response to Covid put them in danger , massive efforts to demonize Trump and turn that into ballots in big cities, doing everything they can to get blacks to vote Biden. I'll bet the votes that made the difference aren't people who care anything about politics . They just were taught to hate Trump and someone got them to vote Biden and turn their ballot in for them or help them send it out.
See, this is what baffles me to no end. But then I remember that the vast majority of people, and 100% of the people who would consider voting Democrat, only get their news/info from mainstream media, and then all becomes clear.

Yes, Trump's behavior toward women, at times, has been gross. Yet it is nothing compared to Biden's revolting, CRIMINAL behavior toward women AND YOUNG GIRLS. Like him raping Terra Reid, and all the groping of girls (on camera, no less), etc. Biden should be in prison, not the White House. But none of this - ZERO - has been broadcast at any length, or with any degree of seriousness, on mainstream media.

Seniors - who was it that murdered all the seniors in the nursing homes? Oh yeah, DEMOCRATS - people who are like Biden and who vote for Biden. But all that just gets ignored by the mainstream media, which is the only news source for the deluded.

Blacks - to my knowledge, Trump has never uttered a racist word in his life. He had a black girlfriend. For all his faults, he's not a racist - that is a pure fiction created by socialists and perpetuated on their 100% controlled mainstream media - and most people are too dumb/lazy to find out the facts for themselves. Biden, however, is a blatant and ACTUAL racist - which can be verified easily by listening to his own mouth utter actual racist words, numerous times on many different occasions.

A clear pattern here, IMO.
Yeah, difference is 93% of what everyone has seen about Trump for 4 years now is negative, and it's bound to penetrate minds that it wouldn't otherwise reach.

It's unfortunate, but the media did their job, and they did it well.(PR reps for the Dems)

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Zathura wrote: November 6th, 2020, 10:13 am
EmmaLee wrote: November 6th, 2020, 10:09 am
Zathura wrote: November 6th, 2020, 9:30 am Idk, a few things . Women turned off by his behavior. Seniors who were duped into believing that his response to Covid put them in danger , massive efforts to demonize Trump and turn that into ballots in big cities, doing everything they can to get blacks to vote Biden. I'll bet the votes that made the difference aren't people who care anything about politics . They just were taught to hate Trump and someone got them to vote Biden and turn their ballot in for them or help them send it out.
See, this is what baffles me to no end. But then I remember that the vast majority of people, and 100% of the people who would consider voting Democrat, only get their news/info from mainstream media, and then all becomes clear.

Yes, Trump's behavior toward women, at times, has been gross. Yet it is nothing compared to Biden's revolting, CRIMINAL behavior toward women AND YOUNG GIRLS. Like him raping Terra Reid, and all the groping of girls (on camera, no less), etc. Biden should be in prison, not the White House. But none of this - ZERO - has been broadcast at any length, or with any degree of seriousness, on mainstream media.

Seniors - who was it that murdered all the seniors in the nursing homes? Oh yeah, DEMOCRATS - people who are like Biden and who vote for Biden. But all that just gets ignored by the mainstream media, which is the only news source for the deluded.

Blacks - to my knowledge, Trump has never uttered a racist word in his life. He had a black girlfriend. For all his faults, he's not a racist - that is a pure fiction created by socialists and perpetuated on their 100% controlled mainstream media - and most people are too dumb/lazy to find out the facts for themselves. Biden, however, is a blatant and ACTUAL racist - which can be verified easily by listening to his own mouth utter actual racist words, numerous times on many different occasions.

A clear pattern here, IMO.
Yeah, difference is 93% of what everyone has seen about Trump for 4 years now is negative, and it's bound to penetrate minds that it wouldn't otherwise reach.

It's unfortunate, but the media did their job, and they did it well.(PR reps for the Dems)
Yep, exactly right. The mainstream media chooses the president in the United States now. There is really no need to vote ever again - at least not for president.

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EmmaLee wrote: November 6th, 2020, 10:15 am
Zathura wrote: November 6th, 2020, 10:13 am
EmmaLee wrote: November 6th, 2020, 10:09 am
Zathura wrote: November 6th, 2020, 9:30 am Idk, a few things . Women turned off by his behavior. Seniors who were duped into believing that his response to Covid put them in danger , massive efforts to demonize Trump and turn that into ballots in big cities, doing everything they can to get blacks to vote Biden. I'll bet the votes that made the difference aren't people who care anything about politics . They just were taught to hate Trump and someone got them to vote Biden and turn their ballot in for them or help them send it out.
See, this is what baffles me to no end. But then I remember that the vast majority of people, and 100% of the people who would consider voting Democrat, only get their news/info from mainstream media, and then all becomes clear.

Yes, Trump's behavior toward women, at times, has been gross. Yet it is nothing compared to Biden's revolting, CRIMINAL behavior toward women AND YOUNG GIRLS. Like him raping Terra Reid, and all the groping of girls (on camera, no less), etc. Biden should be in prison, not the White House. But none of this - ZERO - has been broadcast at any length, or with any degree of seriousness, on mainstream media.

Seniors - who was it that murdered all the seniors in the nursing homes? Oh yeah, DEMOCRATS - people who are like Biden and who vote for Biden. But all that just gets ignored by the mainstream media, which is the only news source for the deluded.

Blacks - to my knowledge, Trump has never uttered a racist word in his life. He had a black girlfriend. For all his faults, he's not a racist - that is a pure fiction created by socialists and perpetuated on their 100% controlled mainstream media - and most people are too dumb/lazy to find out the facts for themselves. Biden, however, is a blatant and ACTUAL racist - which can be verified easily by listening to his own mouth utter actual racist words, numerous times on many different occasions.

A clear pattern here, IMO.
Yeah, difference is 93% of what everyone has seen about Trump for 4 years now is negative, and it's bound to penetrate minds that it wouldn't otherwise reach.

It's unfortunate, but the media did their job, and they did it well.(PR reps for the Dems)
Yep, exactly right. The mainstream media chooses the president in the United States now. There is really no need to vote ever again - at least not for president.
Idk, honestly if what happened this election carries over to 2024 imo we will see a landslide Republican victory with a normal GOP candidate, barring someone like Obama popping up again. Florida and Ohio don't seem to be swing states anymore, they're just battleground states that will likely go right. Any other year I bet PA and AZ and GA go Republican. The hatred for Trump is just THAT strong .

A Republican hasn't had this success with minorities since 1962. There are latino majority countries (that aren't Cuban) that had 50 point swings for Trump. His improvement with blacks is amazing as well.

If those remain and the seniors who voted dem go back to GOP I think things might be looking pretttty good. It's ironic, but this election left me more optimistic than I've been in a long time.

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Zathura wrote: November 6th, 2020, 10:21 am
EmmaLee wrote: November 6th, 2020, 10:15 am Yep, exactly right. The mainstream media chooses the president in the United States now. There is really no need to vote ever again - at least not for president.
Idk, honestly if what happened this election carries over to 2024 imo we will see a landslide Republican victory with a normal GOP candidate, barring someone like Obama popping up again. Florida and Ohio don't seem to be swing states anymore, they're just battleground states that will likely go right. Any other year I bet PA and AZ and GA go Republican. The hatred for Trump is just THAT strong .

A Republican hasn't had this success with minorities since 1962. There are latino majority countries (that aren't Cuban) that had 50 point swings for Trump. His improvement with blacks is amazing as well.

If those remain and the seniors who voted dem go back to GOP I think things might be looking pretttty good. It's ironic, but this election left me more optimistic than I've been in a long time.
That's one way to look at it, and I hope you're right. My gut tells me though, that we'll never see another Republican President in the U.S. again. You're young and optimistic - I'm old and jaded, lol. I just don't see the U.S. ever recovering from this. Something 'extra' has happened, something that hasn't happened before and it's hard to put it into words. But I see it in people, especially LDS people - and can't help but feel we're never going back. Again, I hope you're right - I would sincerely and dearly love to be wrong on this.

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EmmaLee wrote: November 6th, 2020, 10:29 am
Zathura wrote: November 6th, 2020, 10:21 am
EmmaLee wrote: November 6th, 2020, 10:15 am Yep, exactly right. The mainstream media chooses the president in the United States now. There is really no need to vote ever again - at least not for president.
Idk, honestly if what happened this election carries over to 2024 imo we will see a landslide Republican victory with a normal GOP candidate, barring someone like Obama popping up again. Florida and Ohio don't seem to be swing states anymore, they're just battleground states that will likely go right. Any other year I bet PA and AZ and GA go Republican. The hatred for Trump is just THAT strong .

A Republican hasn't had this success with minorities since 1962. There are latino majority countries (that aren't Cuban) that had 50 point swings for Trump. His improvement with blacks is amazing as well.

If those remain and the seniors who voted dem go back to GOP I think things might be looking pretttty good. It's ironic, but this election left me more optimistic than I've been in a long time.
That's one way to look at it, and I hope you're right. My gut tells me though, that we'll never see another Republican President in the U.S. again. You're young and optimistic - I'm old and jaded, lol. I just don't see the U.S. ever recovering from this. Something 'extra' has happened, something that hasn't happened before and it's hard to put it into words. But I see it in people, especially LDS people - and can't help but feel we're never going back. Again, I hope you're right - I would sincerely and dearly love to be wrong on this.
Haha yeah, except I've been saying since 2016 and as recently as a couple days ago that I think we are rapidly approaching the time that we'll never see another Republican.. but I think this election suggests I was wrong. It suggests that all these incoming Hispanics won't necessarily go dem.

We'll see. I'm still keeping an eye on "prophecies" that were made about Trump winning. I'm always hoping for them to be true, just to see that at least SOME people bare the fruit that we should expect among the Lord's people.

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Zathura wrote: November 6th, 2020, 10:33 am
Haha yeah, except I've been saying since 2016 and as recently as a couple days ago that I think we are rapidly approaching the time that we'll never see another Republican.. but I think this election suggests I was wrong. It suggests that all these incoming Hispanics won't necessarily go dem.
Interesting stats:

https://www.targetliberty.com/2020/11/a ... stery.html
Some 26 percent of [Trump's] votes came from nonwhite Americans, the highest percentage for a Republican since 1960. The politician who became instantly famous — and infamous — by saying of Mexican immigrants, “They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists,” performed stunningly well with Latino voters.

Exit polls, which can be unreliable, pegged his national support at 32%-35% of the Latino vote. More tellingly were results in certain counties. Starr County, Texas, the county with the highest percentage of Hispanic or Latino voters — above 95% — voted for Hillary Clinton by a 60-point margin in 2016, but gave Biden just a five point win in 2020.

Even more amazing was Trump’s performance among Black voters. The man whose 2016 message to “the blacks” was very nearly a parody of long-ago New York mayoral candidate Mario Procaccino’s pledge that “My heart is as black as yours” must have found a new way to connect. Trump doubled his support with Black women, moving from 4% in 2016 to 8%, while upping his support among Black men from 13% to 18%. Remember, this was after four years of near-constant denunciations of Trump as not just a racist, but the leader of a literal white supremacist movement:

Trump’s numbers with the LGBTQ community were a stunner also, jumping from 14% to 28%. In September, a dating app for queer men called Hornet ran a survey that showed 45% support for Trump among gay men. Ever since Trump jumped into politics, media observers have rushed to denounce any Trump-related data that conflicts with conventional wisdom, and the Hornet survey was no different. Out magazine quoted a communications professor from Cal Poly Pomona as saying, “To tout a Hornet poll as evidence of LGBTQ support for Trump is clickbaity, sloppy journalism.” Even the Hornet editor scoffed at his own poll, before it all turned out to be true in the election.

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Fascinating... ^^^

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ajax wrote: November 6th, 2020, 10:36 am
Zathura wrote: November 6th, 2020, 10:33 am
Haha yeah, except I've been saying since 2016 and as recently as a couple days ago that I think we are rapidly approaching the time that we'll never see another Republican.. but I think this election suggests I was wrong. It suggests that all these incoming Hispanics won't necessarily go dem.
Interesting stats:

https://www.targetliberty.com/2020/11/a ... stery.html
Some 26 percent of [Trump's] votes came from nonwhite Americans, the highest percentage for a Republican since 1960. The politician who became instantly famous — and infamous — by saying of Mexican immigrants, “They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists,” performed stunningly well with Latino voters.

Exit polls, which can be unreliable, pegged his national support at 32%-35% of the Latino vote. More tellingly were results in certain counties. Starr County, Texas, the county with the highest percentage of Hispanic or Latino voters — above 95% — voted for Hillary Clinton by a 60-point margin in 2016, but gave Biden just a five point win in 2020.

Even more amazing was Trump’s performance among Black voters. The man whose 2016 message to “the blacks” was very nearly a parody of long-ago New York mayoral candidate Mario Procaccino’s pledge that “My heart is as black as yours” must have found a new way to connect. Trump doubled his support with Black women, moving from 4% in 2016 to 8%, while upping his support among Black men from 13% to 18%. Remember, this was after four years of near-constant denunciations of Trump as not just a racist, but the leader of a literal white supremacist movement:

Trump’s numbers with the LGBTQ community were a stunner also, jumping from 14% to 28%. In September, a dating app for queer men called Hornet ran a survey that showed 45% support for Trump among gay men. Ever since Trump jumped into politics, media observers have rushed to denounce any Trump-related data that conflicts with conventional wisdom, and the Hornet survey was no different. Out magazine quoted a communications professor from Cal Poly Pomona as saying, “To tout a Hornet poll as evidence of LGBTQ support for Trump is clickbaity, sloppy journalism.” Even the Hornet editor scoffed at his own poll, before it all turned out to be true in the election.
Yep! Emmalee, that's what I was referring to ^^. Not a chance I saw this coming. Nobody did.

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Watch the Senate runoffs in Georgia....

This could be bad....

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captainfearnot wrote: October 30th, 2020, 7:47 pm I don't expect any kind of substantive legal challenge from Trump. I think all his bluster about voter fraud and the mail-in ballots and having a winner announced on election night has never been based on anything substantial, and is really about creating an excuse not to concede. He knows he's going to lose, and he knows his ego won't allow him to make that gracious and conciliatory phone call that the losing candidate always makes. So he's inventing an out for himself. Just like he could never admit that he lost the meaningless popular vote to Hillary, instead inventing three million illegitimate votes cast by illegals. That's just how he operates.
I was wrong about election night, but this part of my prediction seems to be holding up so far.

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captainfearnot wrote: November 15th, 2020, 9:37 am
captainfearnot wrote: October 30th, 2020, 7:47 pm I don't expect any kind of substantive legal challenge from Trump. I think all his bluster about voter fraud and the mail-in ballots and having a winner announced on election night has never been based on anything substantial, and is really about creating an excuse not to concede. He knows he's going to lose, and he knows his ego won't allow him to make that gracious and conciliatory phone call that the losing candidate always makes. So he's inventing an out for himself. Just like he could never admit that he lost the meaningless popular vote to Hillary, instead inventing three million illegitimate votes cast by illegals. That's just how he operates.
I was wrong about election night, but this part of my prediction seems to be holding up so far.
Imo
Trumps not holding out for his ego. He knows he's going to lose, but he's putting on a show for his maga people...he'll need their subscriptions for his new Maga online streaming network. Which is okay I guess.

Trump isn't stupid, he pulled off a turn out that was insane. Everyone came to the polls for Trump. Whether to vote for him or against him...they came for him. And in his mind(unless he's a complete actor, which I doubt)...in took the combined effort of the deepstate, msm, and fraud to beat him.

I don't think his ego is what's motivating his behavior, its his future business plans...which makes sense, him being a businessman and all. Also, you can rule out him making a deal so he doesn't face indictment....lol If I put myself in his shoes, "I did my best...I've got to think about my future"

Trump never was going to save us, no president can.

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