Date of the Ending of the Half Hour of Silence

[4Joshua8]

This calculation is based on the following assumptions:
1. The half hour of silence is a half hour in God's time.
2. 1 day of God’s time is 1000 years of man’s time.
3. The half hour of silence began on January 1, 2000.

You can use the same math to calculate a different date.

Convert God's time and man's time to the same unit (number of half hours in 1000 years of man's time).

1000 years x 365 days = 365,000 days.
365,000 days x 24 hours = 8,760,000 hours.

24 hours of God’s time is 8,760,000 hours of man’s time.

24 hours x 2 (to create number of half hours) = 48 half hours.
8,760,000 hours x 2 = 17,520,000 half hours.

48 half hours of God’s time is 17,520,000 half hours of man’s time.

1 half hour is 2.0833% of 48 half hours God's time.
364,994 half hours is 2.0833% of 17,520,000 half hours man's time.

364,994 half hours / 2 (to create number of hours) = 182,497 hours.
182,497 hours / 24 = 7,604.04 days.
7,604.04 / 365 = 20.833 years.

1/2 hour of God's time is therefore 20.833 years of man's time.

365 days x 0.833 = 304.045.

The half hour of silence therefore ends on the 304th day of the year 2020.

The 304th day of the year 2020 is October 30th.

If it began January 1, 2020, and if it is exactly 1/2 hour of God's time (most translations say "about" half an hour), the half hour of silence ends on October 30, 2020.

[4Joshua8]

Alternate date:

20.833 years from the Palmyra temple dedication in April 2000: approximately January 30, 2021.
20.833 years from the Conference Center dedication in October 2000: approximately August 3, 2021.

Sorry if someone's already posted all this on the forum, and it's redundant...or repetitive.

[Sarah]

I'm going to go with the April 6 2000 to Jan/Feb 2021. But the scripture says "about the space of half an hour," so we know it's not exact. After this point the final trumps start, so I'm leaning on these events starting very soon before Feb, but it could be a little bit after as well.
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[Original_Intent]

This calculation is based on the following assumptions:
1. The half hour of silence is a half hour in God's time.
2. 1 day of God’s time is 1000 years of man’s time.
3. The half hour of silence began on January 1, 2000.

You can use the same math to calculate a different date.

Convert God's time and man's time to the same unit (number of half hours in 1000 years of man's time).

1000 years x 365 days = 365,000 days.
365,000 days x 24 hours = 8,760,000 hours.

24 hours of God’s time is 8,760,000 hours of man’s time.

24 hours x 2 (to create number of half hours) = 48 half hours.
8,760,000 hours x 2 = 17,520,000 half hours.

48 half hours of God’s time is 17,520,000 half hours of man’s time.

1 half hour is 2.0833% of 48 half hours God's time.
364,994 half hours is 2.0833% of 17,520,000 half hours man's time.

364,994 half hours / 2 (to create number of hours) = 182,497 hours.
182,497 hours / 24 = 7,604.04 days.
7,604.04 / 365 = 20.833 years.

1/2 hour of God's time is therefore 20.833 years of man's time.

365 days x 0.833 = 304.045.

The half hour of silence therefore ends on the 304th day of the year 2020.

The 304th day of the year 2020 is October 30th.

If it began January 1, 2020, and if it is exactly 1/2 hour of God's time (most translations say "about" half an hour), the half hour of silence ends on October 30, 2020.

God Lord, did you take Common Core math?
just do 1000 years divide by 48. What the absolute **** are they teaching in school these days?

[Robin Hood]

It could just mean half an hour of man's time.
Just like when Isaiah tells us that after the cry of "peace and safety" everything will suddenly change in an hour.
Did he mean 41.6 years? Doesn't sound like it.
So if we're going to be consistent perhaps half an hour really means half an hour.

And what is the nature of this silence? What does it mean; absence of noise?
We seem to spend a lot of time wondering how long it is, but not so much on what it is.

How about another interpretation altogether: supposing times, a time and half a time referred to years rather than days? In the Hebrew scriptures periods of time such as days, weeks and years were interchangeable.
So times, a time and half a time could mean 1260 years. Joseph Smith believed that is what it is referring to and claimed that the Daniel prophecy began in 570AD and concluded in 1830.

[Art Vandelay]

It could just mean half an hour of man's time.
Just like when Isaiah tells us that after the cry of "peace and safety" everything will suddenly change in an hour.
Did he mean 41.6 years? Doesn't sound like it.
So if we're going to be consistent perhaps half an hour really means half an hour

The half hour is in Heaven, not on earth. I think that's the big difference.
Like you, I'd be interested in what it means. If it's silent in heaven and heaven simply means the skies, then is it silent on the ground too? If it's Heaven, where God dwells, that's silent (that's what I believe) then what are those in Heaven doing? Admittedly I haven't really spent much time studying this topic. I can't control it and apparently I'm not really supposed to participate in it so I'll just be a good global spectator. My wife says I'm going deaf so I may not even notice any silence.

[BeNotDeceived]

The word “about” is redundant, with proper understanding of significant digits.

What are the word choices, phrased in fractions of an hour, as was the common practice

Less than 22.5 minutes would be spoken of as a quarter hour.

More than 37.5 minutes could be spoken of as three quarters of an hour, which is weird phraseology.

Therefore the upper limit is 45 minutes.

[Bronco73idi]

2054

[Dave62]

Brother Joshua, you may be out by one year. The silence would have started on 1st January 2001 not 2000.

[Robin Hood]

Brother Joshua, you may be out by one year. The silence would have started on 1st January 2001 not 2000.

Absolutely.
Many people make the mistake of thinking the new millenium began on 1st January 2000, but it didn't, it began 1st January 2001.

[mahalanobis]

I usually stay away from this stuff. So forgive my lack of knowledge. What is the conversion from God's time to man's?

Was it 1 godly day = 1000 earthly years? Is that right?

I have no issue with this notion, but what's the origin of this idea?

[OCDMOM]

I'm going to go with the April 6 2000 to Jan/Feb 2021. But the scripture says "about the space of half an hour," so we know it's not exact. After this point the final trumps start, so I'm leaning on these events starting very soon before Feb, but it could be a little bit after as well.
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The Palmyra Temple was Dedicated on that day.

[4Joshua8]

Alternate dates:

20.833 years from the Palmyra temple dedication in April 2000: approximately January 30, 2021.
20.833 years from 9 months before January 1, 2001: approximately February 1, 2021.
20.833 years from the Conference Center dedication in October 2000: approximately August 3, 2021.
20.833 years from January 1, 2001: approximately November 1, 2021.

[Sarah]

I'm going to go with the April 6 2000 to Jan/Feb 2021. But the scripture says "about the space of half an hour," so we know it's not exact. After this point the final trumps start, so I'm leaning on these events starting very soon before Feb, but it could be a little bit after as well.
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The Palmyra Temple was Dedicated on that day.

Right, and I believe Jesus was born April 6 1BC. That is the date John Pratt came up with, and I tend to agree with him for multiple reasons. So between the two dates would be exactly 2000 years, and both were Nisan 1 and a Thursday I believe.

[Gospel Donkey]

It could just mean half an hour of man's time.
Just like when Isaiah tells us that after the cry of "peace and safety" everything will suddenly change in an hour.
Did he mean 41.6 years? Doesn't sound like it.
So if we're going to be consistent perhaps half an hour really means half an hour.

And what is the nature of this silence? What does it mean; absence of noise?
We seem to spend a lot of time wondering how long it is, but not so much on what it is.

How about another interpretation altogether: supposing times, a time and half a time referred to years rather than days? In the Hebrew scriptures periods of time such as days, weeks and years were interchangeable.
So times, a time and half a time could mean 1260 years. Joseph Smith believed that is what it is referring to and claimed that the Daniel prophecy began in 570AD and concluded in 1830.

Very good point, it is earthly half hour of silence from the noise of heaven. The 6th seal starts with earthquake, moon and sun going dark/blood, meteorite strikes etc.., the same with the 7th seal first event is a meteorite that kills' 1/3 of all life in the ocean.

The BoM has a few hours of silence after the destructions and the earthquakes etc.. stop then the voice of Jesus.
D&C 88 has another half hour of silence then immediately the second coming.
The 6 seal only ends in 2033, 2,000 years since the crucifixion's. The birth of Christ is peace on earth, the crucifixion is destruction.

:94 And another angel shall sound his trump, saying: That great church, the mother of abominations, that made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, that persecuteth the saints of God, that shed their blood—she who sitteth upon many waters, and upon the islands of the sea—behold, she is the tares of the earth; she is bound in bundles; her bands are made strong, no man can loose them; therefore, she is ready to be burned. And he shall sound his trump both long and loud, and all nations shall hear it.
95 And there shall be silence in heaven for the space of half an hour and immediately after shall the curtain of heaven be unfolded, as a scroll is unfolded after it is rolled up, and the face of the Lord shall be unveiled;
96 And the saints that are upon the earth, who are alive, shall be quickened and be caught up to meet him.

Why is there so much confusion on such a simply verse in the scriptures - below is two YT vids I did on the subject.

[Robin Hood]

I'm going to go with the April 6 2000 to Jan/Feb 2021. But the scripture says "about the space of half an hour," so we know it's not exact. After this point the final trumps start, so I'm leaning on these events starting very soon before Feb, but it could be a little bit after as well.
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The Palmyra Temple was Dedicated on that day.

Right, and I believe Jesus was born April 6 1BC. That is the date John Pratt came up with, and I tend to agree with him for multiple reasons. So between the two dates would be exactly 2000 years, and both were Nisan 1 and a Thursday I believe.

Jesus was not born 6th April 1BC. That is impossible.
It is a known fact that Herod died in 4BC, but the scriptures testify that he was clearly around at the time of Christ's birth.
The whole 6th April thing is nonsense too. In fact, April is one of the least likely months for Christ's birth. Amazingly, December is one of the most likely.

[Luke]

The whole 6th April thing is nonsense too.

How people extrapolate that Jesus was born on 6th April from that one Scripture in D&C 20 is beyond me. That's clearly not what it was saying

[4Joshua8]

The point of this post was because there have been multiple people on this forum who have said they believe the half hour of silence is 20.83 years long, that it began in 2000, and that it ends this year. So, I wanted to find the exact date based on that belief, and show you the math steps to get there (though it has been pointed out that my math had more steps than you need...LOL).

If you're someone who believes it is 20.83 years long but began on a different date, you can take your beginning date and plug in 7,604 days to get your ending date. You can use something like this tool to try to find the end date: https://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html.

For the record, I've vacillated over the past couple years between this take on the half hour and the "from man's perspective" take on the half hour, meaning a brief silence from our perspective. Like is often the case, I'm now thinking that I don't know why I have to choose only one. How many prophecies in the scriptures are fulfilled in more than one way at more than one time?

[MannahChef]

I'm sorry but I can't help ask... wasn't the Easter Bunny also born in April? And please don't give me the "heathen holiday origins" birds and bee's talking to either. Because I'm quite happy with how things have turned out thus far, especially the Goddess of Hades and Lasciviousness converting to a Mother Theresa statue asking for the world to give her their huddled masses; sold to America by some French artist! At this rate all evil will become Santa's elves in the N.Pole making toys for all the children of the world! LOVE it!!! BUT... on a serious note, to not get off topic, I agree that October 30, 2020 should be made a new national holiday. How about calling it Wormwood Day?! Ha! Or whatever happens that day!! God help us!!! In Jesus name, Amen!

[clarkjk]

This calculation is based on the following assumptions:
1. The half hour of silence is a half hour in God's time.
2. 1 day of God’s time is 1000 years of man’s time.
3. The half hour of silence began on January 1, 2000.

You can use the same math to calculate a different date.

Convert God's time and man's time to the same unit (number of half hours in 1000 years of man's time).

1000 years x 365 days = 365,000 days.
365,000 days x 24 hours = 8,760,000 hours.

24 hours of God’s time is 8,760,000 hours of man’s time.

24 hours x 2 (to create number of half hours) = 48 half hours.
8,760,000 hours x 2 = 17,520,000 half hours.

48 half hours of God’s time is 17,520,000 half hours of man’s time.

1 half hour is 2.0833% of 48 half hours God's time.
364,994 half hours is 2.0833% of 17,520,000 half hours man's time.

364,994 half hours / 2 (to create number of hours) = 182,497 hours.
182,497 hours / 24 = 7,604.04 days.
7,604.04 / 365 = 20.833 years.

1/2 hour of God's time is therefore 20.833 years of man's time.

365 days x 0.833 = 304.045.

The half hour of silence therefore ends on the 304th day of the year 2020.

The 304th day of the year 2020 is October 30th.

If it began January 1, 2020, and if it is exactly 1/2 hour of God's time (most translations say "about" half an hour), the half hour of silence ends on October 30, 2020.

God Lord, did you take Common Core math?
just do 1000 years divide by 48. What the absolute **** are they teaching in school these days?

Lol right? I did the same. 1000÷48. Also .833 years comes out to the first week if October. If you do think its 2020, then you also think it's around October 1st or..
The semiannual general conference.

[4Joshua8]

This calculation is based on the following assumptions:
1. The half hour of silence is a half hour in God's time.
2. 1 day of God’s time is 1000 years of man’s time.
3. The half hour of silence began on January 1, 2000.

You can use the same math to calculate a different date.

Convert God's time and man's time to the same unit (number of half hours in 1000 years of man's time).

1000 years x 365 days = 365,000 days.
365,000 days x 24 hours = 8,760,000 hours.

24 hours of God’s time is 8,760,000 hours of man’s time.

24 hours x 2 (to create number of half hours) = 48 half hours.
8,760,000 hours x 2 = 17,520,000 half hours.

48 half hours of God’s time is 17,520,000 half hours of man’s time.

1 half hour is 2.0833% of 48 half hours God's time.
364,994 half hours is 2.0833% of 17,520,000 half hours man's time.

364,994 half hours / 2 (to create number of hours) = 182,497 hours.
182,497 hours / 24 = 7,604.04 days.
7,604.04 / 365 = 20.833 years.

1/2 hour of God's time is therefore 20.833 years of man's time.

365 days x 0.833 = 304.045.

The half hour of silence therefore ends on the 304th day of the year 2020.

The 304th day of the year 2020 is October 30th.

If it began January 1, 2020, and if it is exactly 1/2 hour of God's time (most translations say "about" half an hour), the half hour of silence ends on October 30, 2020.

God Lord, did you take Common Core math?
just do 1000 years divide by 48. What the absolute **** are they teaching in school these days?

Lol right? I did the same. 1000÷48. Also .833 years comes out to the first week if October. If you do think its 2020, then you also think it's around October 1st or..
The semiannual general conference.

365 x 0.833 = 304.045

The 304th day of 2020 is October 30 or 31, depending on how you count it.

[Sarah]

I'm going to go with the April 6 2000 to Jan/Feb 2021. But the scripture says "about the space of half an hour," so we know it's not exact. After this point the final trumps start, so I'm leaning on these events starting very soon before Feb, but it could be a little bit after as well.
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The Palmyra Temple was Dedicated on that day.

Right, and I believe Jesus was born April 6 1BC. That is the date John Pratt came up with, and I tend to agree with him for multiple reasons. So between the two dates would be exactly 2000 years, and both were Nisan 1 and a Thursday I believe.

Jesus was not born 6th April 1BC. That is impossible.
It is a known fact that Herod died in 4BC, but the scriptures testify that he was clearly around at the time of Christ's birth.
The whole 6th April thing is nonsense too. In fact, April is one of the least likely months for Christ's birth. Amazingly, December is one of the most likely.

You'll have to read his articles:
https://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/herod/herod.html Yet Another Eclipse for Herod
https://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/20 ... hrist.html The Birth Date of Jesus Christ

The reason everyone assumes Herod died in 4 BC is because of a reference to an eclipse that happened at that time, but Pratt shows that there was a partial eclipse at a later date that is a likely candidate for when Herod actually died. I'll have to reread his arguments again, but I think that's the gist of it.

[Gospel Donkey]

Dec is winter in Israel, shepards tending fields is not likely.
6 April is official Church doctrine.
Time of Crucifixion 33y, and sign of birth is in line with Nephite timing of events in BoM. Second witness.
2033 blood moons on holy days lines up with 2000y since crucifixion.

[Gospel Donkey]

The whole 6th April thing is nonsense too.

How people extrapolate that Jesus was born on 6th April from that one Scripture in D&C 20 is beyond me. That's clearly not what it was saying

It makes perfect sense, going back from the date of crucifixion, and 6 April falling on high holy day, His date of baptism and start of ministry, every major calendar also attests to April, 6.


https://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/20 ... hrist.html

[Robin Hood]

Dec is winter in Israel, shepards tending fields is not likely.
6 April is official Church doctrine.
Time of Crucifixion 33y, and sign of birth is in line with Nephite timing of events in BoM. Second witness.
2033 blood moons on holy days lines up with 2000y since crucifixion.

Firstly, winter in the middle-east is not severe. Sheep would certainly be out in December, and are to this day.
April 6th is not official doctrine.