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Just wanted to share that LDS canneries east of Missisippi halting production starting July 1. Read facts here-
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"Abhorrent costs to keep in compliance" with gov't regulations - but they will still be selling prepackaged foods, the article said. Sad, y'know? - how the gov't over-regulates so many things.

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Can anyone verify this for us?

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If you belong to the Avow website there are several east coast members who have verified it. But since it is a paid for subscription group if I put the link in here you couldn't see it if not a member

Also if you click on the link and read the article she includes a picture of an official handout from the lds cannery in Greensboro nc. They make it seem like "exciting " news that they will be a resource center. Then say "we will no longer be canning". This to downplay any negatives

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mes5464 wrote:Can anyone verify this for us?
I live near Atlanta and can vouch for us. The director of the church cannery in Atlanta shares our ward building (same building, different ward) and told our bishopric that our cannery will no longer be receiving long-term storage in bags, etc, and once the cannery runs out of their current stock, we the members of the church will only be able to purchased canned-and-boxed goods from the cannery.

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FourthHorseman wrote:
mes5464 wrote:Can anyone verify this for us?
I live near Atlanta and can vouch for us. The director of the church cannery in Atlanta shares our ward building (same building, different ward) and told our bishopric that our cannery will no longer be receiving long-term storage in bags, etc, and once the cannery runs out of their current stock, we the members of the church will only be able to purchased canned-and-boxed goods from the cannery.
Thanks for that info FH. That is a missing piece of the puzzle. I knew the portable canners would still be available to borrow; so I assumed that meant that bulk would be; but apparently not. When you mention boxed--The spaghetti and macaroni currently come boxed; so they will still be available that way? (As do apples, onions, carrots)

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So can anyone verify what products will be available prepackaged in the short term, and what might not be available for some time?

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The Sacramento, CA wet pack cannery was shut down over a year ago. However the prepacked and dry packing facilities are still open, but for only 2 days a week.

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mes5464 wrote:Can anyone verify this for us?
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BringerOfJoy wrote:Thanks for that info FH. That is a missing piece of the puzzle. I knew the portable canners would still be available to borrow; so I assumed that meant that bulk would be; but apparently not. When you mention boxed--The spaghetti and macaroni currently come boxed; so they will still be available that way? (As do apples, onions, carrots)
I followed up w/ the director of the Atlanta cannery and was told:
* There will be no changes to the bishop's storehouses, only to the canneries
* Boxed goods, such as macaroni and spaghetti, will still be available for purchase
* Canneries will still have boxes and #10 cans for sale

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Charley wrote:So can anyone verify what products will be available prepackaged in the short term, and what might not be available for some time?
Charley: It depends on where you are. Currently available are flour, red & white wheat, pinto beans, quick oats in # 10 cans; and pancake mix & potato pearls in pouches. If you are on the east coast where the new products have been introduced, then you also have regular oats, sugar, potato flakes, and also cocoa and fruit drink mix in pouches. Those will be available nation wide later on in the year. Then, as was mentioned above, you also have the five boxed products: onions, carrots, apples, spaghetti & Macaroni. They come in 35 lb., 25 lb. or 15 lb boxes depending on the product.

Here is a link to the current order form as of May 1 in .pdf format:
http://providentliving.org/bc/content/p ... f?lang=eng" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

On AVOW, one poster commented that by late august everything will be in prepack except milk, onions, pasta, apples, and carrots. I don't know if that's accurate or not, but it makes sense except for the milk.

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Is this closure do to a lack of member use?

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Are these long term storage items healthy, or do any contain harmful additives ?

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BringerofJoy, you mentioned about the five boxed products: onions, carrots, apples, spaghetti and macaroni. I'm not sure what you are saying about these five? Will they continue to be available in bulk in the 35, 25 or 15 lb boxes? Or will they be canned up eventually like the other items?

Thinking I might get into our cannery (Kansas City) and beef up on the items that might be phasing out until they can get them in production for prepackaging.

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SARAH Ward wrote:Are these long term storage items healthy, or do any contain harmful additives ?
Depends. The potatoes have a number of additives. The apples have sulfites, which aren't a problem for most people, but they are for me; and they are for most folks with asthma. The Hot Cocoa and the fruit drink mix? You don't even want to read those ingredients. :D

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Thank you BringerofJoy - look forward (I think) to reading what they tell you.

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It is no joke to me. It is in fact a faith destroying disappointment that it does not seem to be a criteria that the question of whether food being recommended by LDS Church representatives for long term storage is healthy. :(

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Interesting that regulations of the government have caused this shutdown, hopefully not loss of more jobs, but the help and convenience of so many people. Another sign that we need to stand up and make changes with our political leaders from the ground floor up in order to reverse this destructive trend.

Say, with regards to another preparedness point... one you hopefully can help me with and one that you might be interested in also. I had a chance to visit the UVU Preparedness Expo last weekend in Orem, Utah. While there I ran across the most interesting solar cooker I've ever seen. It's called the Solar Flare Parabolic Solar Cooker. It's small and fits in a backpack, yet it's highly effective, able to rehydrate and cook dried food in about 30 minutes and anything else in about an hour. It will pasteurize water in about 10 minutes, AND they are inexpensive. My question is for anyone out there... what do you know about the Solar Flare, what do you think about them, and where are they available for purchase? They look to be a great preparedness item... using the free energy of the sun to cook your meals is a great idea.

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The Deseret News and the Church reports a somewhat different take on this --

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8655 ... olicy.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TIGHTENING THE SCREWS ON FOOD PRODUCTION & DISTRIBUTION.

We have another organization that will help the BO Administration gain control over US. The USDA, (through food production and distribution regulation), has begun to tighten the screws on just who can and can not produce, process, and distribute food in this country.
The new rules that have gone into effect will shut down many resources people have had to feed themselves and others. One major player in food raising, process production, and distribution is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints through their "Welfare Program". Last year, the FBI was reported to have "Popped in" to an LDS Cannery demanding to see a list of all of their patrons. Now, with the new regulations, the Church will have to halt their cannery facility production, Church farms, and orchards. Another step in controlling US through food. Here are parts of an article that has been written on the subject -
BREAKING NEWS: LDS CANNERIES TO HALT CANNING!
By Kellene Bishop
June 27th Deadline for Canning at LDS Canneries West of the Mississippi
As is supported by the announcement to the left in part, LDS Canneries will no longer be canning any food at their facilities beginning June 27th, 2013. Insiders who are closely involved with these actions tell me that this will encompass “west of the Mississippi” and that the reason for such a startling action is because they are no longer able to justify the abhorrent costs to keep in compliance with the ever-changing criteria set forth by the U.S. Department of Agriculture and the Food and Drug Administration.
Keep in mind that the LDS Church Corporation is no pauper nor have they shown anything but an admirable determination to continue running these facilities over the years. They stand as a beacon of self-sufficiency in every sense of the word as they are run debt free and strictly by volunteers. There’s hardly a home of an LDS Member in existence that doesn’t possess at least a couple of their trademarked, understated brand of cans from the cannery and there are millions of non LDS persons who have discovered the food that can be purchased from these centers as one of the best kept secrets to successful family budgeting. They are NOT backing down because of a small speed bump. No, this decision would ONLY come as a result of some pretty significant obstacles.
What’s a cannery that doesn’t can anything? Well, apparently it’s just a center now in which people will be able to check out the #10 canners for a few days at a time and can dry goods in their own home now or they’ll be able to purchase pre-packaged goods that will be canned in the more robust facilities in the Western States which will no doubt bear the burden of the cost to be shipped now to the Eastern states. However, several interviews made it clear to me that there’s an active intent by these government entities to shut down ALL LDS Canneries ALL over the U.S. including the ability to purchase foods in bulk and that there’s a targeted time table by the government entities to have this accomplished at the end of the next two years. We’ll just have to see who wins that little challenge.
I’m greatly disturbed by this recent change of events, not only because I have personally volunteered at several of the affected facilities, but I personally know literally hundreds of readers who will also be impacted by this change. I’ve been able to confirm this week that this policy has been put in place at a handful of other LDS Canneries in other areas of the country including Missouri, and Washington.
Adding more fodder to this mess is the recent uptick in the government agencies harassing the LDS Church owned orchards in various parts of the U.S. Here’s one letter I received by one of the members of the LDS Church who showed up to volunteer on a church run orchard in Idaho. (As always—name withheld)
“We are blessed to live close to the LDS church orchards and get the opportunity to work there every year to prune, thin, and harvest peaches, pears, plums, cherries, apricots, apples, etc. It is such a blessing to people who live here and for the members of the church who provide labor which ultimately feeds thousands of people worldwide.
However, the feds have upped their regulations this year and are requiring every volunteer to be (specially government) trained. They have made it clear that we could be audited, and the volunteers could be asked by Gov’t officials on-site (at any time) if they have been ‘trained’. If we are not in compliance, the orchard could be shut down. So after Sacrament meeting today they had a Stake member come and pass out a ‘training’ sheet and gave adults a card that people are supposed to sign and take with them out to the orchard when we work to show that we have been trained. The wards now have to have an orchard coordinator that will be on site to ‘train’ those people who fall through the cracks and missed the training. (Editor note: Remember—these are ALL volunteers who make this all possible.)
The training includes on-site cleanliness (washing hands, etc. and using the toilet facilities that the church has always provided (us) before ‘they’ said anything); another item was that if fruit touches the ground we are to not put it in the bins; we can’t use it for use at the cannery. However, that fruit is good enough for me to pick up and take home to eat, hmmmm. Moving on….
Another item–That children are watched carefully so they don’t pick fruit with unclean hands, (seems to me that the canning process would kill any bacteria that a child or adult might have on their hands); that each volunteer record their hours, and that we provide proof of training to any official who may want to see it on demand.
Now this is just another effort to make us more dependent on ‘Them’. I was livid during this meeting as I realized what was happening and what ‘They’ are trying to accomplish. This is a sign of it trickling down to the people of our country and many don’t see the tentacles reaching out to grab and control them. Too many people are complacent and don’t realize what this means for the future of our food production.
The cannery in Boise has had to quit canning meats because ‘They’ passed more regulations that the Church wasn’t willing to abide by. So rather than jump through more hoops the church decided they would no longer can meats. I guess it is good that I already can meat and also teach others to do so. I wonder what other ‘regulations’ they will pass to try and shut the cannery down.
I live in Idaho, and the stakes from (redacted) westward do orchard work and the Stakes in (redacted) do cannery work. We have loved doing work in the orchards and have enjoyed having our children help. But I guess we have to be extra vigilant and be in compliance, so we will be making sure our children don’t contaminate the whole orchard by picking up a piece of fruit off the ground and eating it on site. This is an item that ‘they’ insist on compliance. Absolutely NO picking of fruit and eating it while in the orchard. HA! How have we survived this long without Government regulations??”
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When you consider this bit of news with the incident that was reported last year in which an LDS Cannery received a surprise visit from the FBI who reportedly demanded to see a list of their patrons —things start coming into focus. I also can’t help but think of the increase numbers of regular, everyday home gardeners that are being harassed by the police just because t... No, I’m not talking about some crazy story in some other country; I’m talking about what’s going on right here in the U.S.A.

I’d say that we’ve all had ample indications that it’s time to wake up and get prepared. You’ve already lost one more valuable outlet with this latest maneuver. You’re likely to find that your bank account has been emptied overnight by the powers that be like it was for many in Cyprus and Canada recently. You’re likely to find that it’s impossible to purchase non-gmo seeds any longer to grow, or that your water supply will be drastically reduced. Who knows what will happen exactly, but no one can sit there and feign ignorance or plead that they never had any warning. This, my friends, is a warning to us all.
Note: I do not think the majority of Americans realize the depth and extent the USDA has in the new laws in regulating and restricting food now. Even the best "Prepper's
will eventually have to rely on the government for their food or seed or some aspect of their ability to feed themselves and others. I consider this as a legal way to control US. What say you?

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