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by simpleton
January 19th, 2023, 1:36 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

Well in my reading, the Lord called "many" and yet some, or even many fell. And so just because of being called, even with promises, those promises are conditional upon enduring to the end. As George A Smith stated in church in the late 1800's, "where are all those that received thos...
by Shawn Henry
January 19th, 2023, 10:46 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

Well in my reading, the Lord called "many" and yet some, or even many fell. And so just because of being called, even with promises, those promises are conditional upon enduring to the end. As George A Smith stated in church in the late 1800's, "where are all those that received thos...
by Dusty Wanderer
January 18th, 2023, 7:14 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

And then again maybe this applies to these whom you are trying to elevate I am not trying to elevate anyone, it is the Lord who has already done that in scripture. I am simply studying what he has already said about these First Elders. Perhaps you could read and study what we have and let it add to...
by cab
January 18th, 2023, 6:54 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

Taylor Drake and Watcher are 2 different people. Watcher has never used his real name. I listened to the Iron Rod Podcast ...
by BeNotDeceived
January 18th, 2023, 5:14 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

And then again maybe this applies to these whom you are trying to elevate I am not trying to elevate anyone, it is the Lord who has already done that in scripture. I am simply studying what he has already said about these First Elders. Perhaps you could read and study what we have and let it add to...
by simpleton
January 18th, 2023, 1:39 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

And then again maybe this applies to these whom you are trying to elevate I am not trying to elevate anyone, it is the Lord who has already done that in scripture. I am simply studying what he has already said about these First Elders. Perhaps you could read and study what we have and let it add to...
by Shawn Henry
January 18th, 2023, 10:32 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

And then again maybe this applies to these whom you are trying to elevate I am not trying to elevate anyone, it is the Lord who has already done that in scripture. I am simply studying what he has already said about these First Elders. Perhaps you could read and study what we have and let it add to...
by simpleton
January 18th, 2023, 10:15 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

Interesting break-down, thanks. What role will Oliver C. have, if any, in the third watch? He and Joseph seemed like brothers that never reconciled, which has always saddened me. I think he's also a man of integrity that just couldn't work in patience with the black and white implications of the th...
by Shawn Henry
January 18th, 2023, 9:58 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

Interesting break-down, thanks. What role will Oliver C. have, if any, in the third watch? He and Joseph seemed like brothers that never reconciled, which has always saddened me. I think he's also a man of integrity that just couldn't work in patience with the black and white implications of the th...
by CaptainM
January 17th, 2023, 4:24 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

This MAY be of help, but we do know that Oliver was chosen of God to hold the keys as co-president of the high priesthood, and was eventually elevated above Sidney Rigdon and Frederick G. Williams in the first presidency. g6Is15l0YkE 4nYSoABpezM https://onewhoiswatching.wordpress.com/?s=oliver%27s+s...
by Dusty Wanderer
January 17th, 2023, 3:35 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

Throughout scripture are references to the two great servants of the last days. These two sons. The two candlesticks. The two olive trees. The two anointed ones. The two witnesses. The Stay and the Staff. The Branch and the Brand. The two staves. The prophet and priest. The Seer and the Spokesman. ...
by Cruiserdude
January 17th, 2023, 8:21 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

Throughout scripture are references to the two great servants of the last days. These two sons. The two candlesticks. The two olive trees. The two anointed ones. The two witnesses. The Stay and the Staff. The Branch and the Brand. The two staves. The prophet and priest. The Seer and the Spokesman. ...
by endlessQuestions
January 17th, 2023, 7:24 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

endlessQuestions here is a Youtube presentation by Taylor Drake and Chris Hubbard: The Hidden History That Will Change Your Mormon Paradigm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGpzaLNVnls&t=4s ...
by Shawn Henry
January 17th, 2023, 3:22 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

The Lord says of Sidney in section 124: "I, the Lord your God, will heal him". Follow the word link to 3 Nephi 21 where the Lord references a marred servant and says: "Yet I will heal him".

It is my opinion that these word links are quite purposeful.
by CaptainM
January 17th, 2023, 3:06 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

Throughout scripture are references to the two great servants of the last days. These two sons. The two candlesticks. The two olive trees. The two anointed ones. The two witnesses. The Stay and the Staff. The Branch and the Brand. The two staves. The prophet and priest. The Seer and the Spokesman. ...
by Shawn Henry
January 17th, 2023, 3:00 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

Throughout scripture are references to the two great servants of the last days. These two sons. The two candlesticks. The two olive trees. The two anointed ones. The two witnesses. The Stay and the Staff. The Branch and the Brand. The two staves. The prophet and priest. The Seer and the Spokesman. W...
by Shawn Henry
January 17th, 2023, 2:37 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

I could never understand the maligning of Marks and Rigdon and others Especially considering how the Lord speaks of Sidney in the D&C. No one has risen greater than John the Baptist and the Lord then compares Sidney to John. In 1842 the Lord told him that he would again lift up his voice and be...
by CaptainM
January 16th, 2023, 9:18 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

endlessQuestions here is a Youtube presentation by Taylor Drake and Chris Hubbard: The Hidden History That Will Change Your Mormon Paradigm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGpzaLNVnls&t=4s ...
by Dusty Wanderer
January 16th, 2023, 5:52 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

... Watcher's work and simply parroted everything he has been saying. Taylor Drake is good at condensing Watcher's material, but that doesn't change the fact that everything ...
by CaptainM
January 16th, 2023, 4:29 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching (Taylor Drake) and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

He believes that he was an intercessory prophet just as Moses was. They both interceded on behalf of the saints and staved off judgement by having the sins of Israel placed upon them. The sins they both committed were actually the fault of those they were leading. So there are actual fallen prophet...
by GeeR
January 16th, 2023, 4:24 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

endlessQuestions here is a Youtube presentation by Taylor Drake and Chris Hubbard: The Hidden History That Will Change Your Mormon Paradigm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGpzaLNVnls&t=4s ...
by CaptainM
January 16th, 2023, 4:04 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

endlessQuestions here is a Youtube presentation by Taylor Drake and Chris Hubbard: The Hidden History That Will Change Your Mormon Paradigm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGpzaLNVnls&t=4s ...
by logonbump
January 16th, 2023, 2:32 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching (Taylor Drake) and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

He believes that he was an intercessory prophet just as Moses was. They both interceded on behalf of the saints and staved off judgement by having the sins of Israel placed upon them. The sins they both committed were actually the fault of those they were leading. So there are actual fallen prophet...
by BigT
January 16th, 2023, 2:24 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching (Taylor Drake) and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

I’m familiar with the ancient scapegoat intercessory offering, but hadn’t heard about Joseph and Sydney performing a similar ceremony with the two of them. Do you have any material on this that you can point me to? As for your comment here, it impacted me. As I imagined the remaining believers in t...
by Dusty Wanderer
January 16th, 2023, 2:11 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: One Who is Watching, Taylor Drake, and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study
Replies: 73
Views: 1783

Re: One Who is Watching (Taylor Drake) and John P. Pratt - a Proposed Study

Watcher has some brilliant stuff but he believes that Joseph was a fallen prophet. He believes that he was an intercessory prophet just as Moses was. They both interceded on behalf of the saints and staved off judgement by having the sins of Israel placed upon them. The sins they both committed wer...