Search found 178 matches

by ripliancum
March 22nd, 2017, 1:28 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Book of Mormon Goats and Cattle
Replies: 75
Views: 4580

Re: Book of Mormon Goats and Cattle

On the other hand North American has direct or historical evidence for every aspect of the Book of Mormon. Reformed Egyptian Four Surviving Characters http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.com/2016/09/native-american-egyptian-hieroglyph.html Native American Traditional use of Sacred Metal Tablets htt...
by ripliancum
March 22nd, 2017, 1:23 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Book of Mormon Goats and Cattle
Replies: 75
Views: 4580

Re: Book of Mormon Goats and Cattle

Many people have unfortunately left the church. They site no evidence for the Book of Mormon in Central and South America. They can not picture a horse to be a tapir and iron swords made as wood. Common themes for those who purport the meso American model. The good thing about the meso american mode...
by ripliancum
March 22nd, 2017, 1:18 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories
Replies: 75
Views: 5580

Re: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories

I would love to see where she quotes from. Im not familiar with indigenous people of central and south America that claim that Christ visited them or have legends that support that idea.
by ripliancum
March 22nd, 2017, 12:47 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories
Replies: 75
Views: 5580

Re: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories

If the quotes were reliable FAIR would use them. The fact that FAIR doesn't says a lot.
by ripliancum
March 22nd, 2017, 12:44 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Remains of Nephite/Hopewell fortifications
Replies: 36
Views: 2551

Re: Remains of Nephite/Hopewell fortifications

Beast refers to wild animals not domesticated sheep or cattle. The Nephites say there were migrating beast there is no reason the Jaredites in time of famine did not follow the buffalo to escape starvation. The Nephites state that the beast migrated north and south for food. Once again south and cen...
by ripliancum
March 22nd, 2017, 12:34 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Book of Mormon Goats and Cattle
Replies: 75
Views: 4580

Re: Book of Mormon Goats and Cattle

AI What your saying is that Man evolved from apes and pond scum. The arrival of haplo group x according to scientist predates adam and eve by 9000 years. You may believe that man evolved from apes but I dont And I think most traditional lds members believe mankind came from adam and eve not monkeys....
by ripliancum
March 21st, 2017, 12:34 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Remains of Nephite/Hopewell fortifications
Replies: 36
Views: 2551

Re: Remains of Nephite/Hopewell fortifications

The migrating beast are the same for the Nephites as it is for the Jaredites. There had to be a large herd of animals for the Jaredites to follow buffalo fit this description.
by ripliancum
March 21st, 2017, 12:18 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories
Replies: 75
Views: 5580

Re: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories

Haplo group x is probably the DNA of Lehi. Scientist have postulated that Haplo group x dispersed from Israel. Israel has the highest concentration and the most diversity of Haplo group x anywhere in the world. Native Americans have the second highest concentration of this Middle East dna marker. Th...
by ripliancum
March 21st, 2017, 12:05 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories
Replies: 75
Views: 5580

Re: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories

If you believe that mankind started with Adam and Eve as I do 6000 years ago there is no way that Haplo group x arrived in the Americas 15000 years ago. There is no genetic evidence for the scientific theory on this by the way. The book of Mormon best explains this by saying a trans ocean voyage. Yo...
by ripliancum
March 21st, 2017, 12:02 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Book of Mormon Goats and Cattle
Replies: 75
Views: 4580

Re: Book of Mormon Goats and Cattle

They are genetically related to the tribes that Laman and Lemauel would have intermarried with. So in that way they are Lamanites. But as stated only north American Indians have dna markers that originate in the middle east
by ripliancum
March 20th, 2017, 2:01 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories
Replies: 75
Views: 5580

Re: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories

I would be very interested to know which South American tribes say that they were visited by Christ and what sources she used for this.
by ripliancum
March 20th, 2017, 1:55 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Remains of Nephite/Hopewell fortifications
Replies: 36
Views: 2551

Re: Remains of Nephite/Hopewell fortifications

The Jaredites followed the beast and ate their dead carcasses. The Nephites described migratory beast. Your problem is with scripture and the fact that central and South America dos not fit scripture. The migratory path you are citing is for 1870 not 0AD Ether 9 34 And it came to pass that the peopl...
by ripliancum
March 20th, 2017, 1:29 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories
Replies: 75
Views: 5580

Re: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories

(Gaspesian/Micmac legend of a beautiful person who in a time of turmoil visited them. He taught them and performed miracles. The sleep mentioned in the quote would make sense during the three days of darkness mentioned in 3 Nephi. The cross mentioned in the quote is the Greek style cross - not to be...
by ripliancum
March 20th, 2017, 1:19 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Lost Gospel/ Lost Book
Replies: 2
Views: 328

Lost Gospel/ Lost Book

Native American Tradition reports a lost Gospel and Bible. (Concerning Hattera Indians of North Carolina) “These (Hattera Indians) tell us, that several of their Ancestors were white People, and could talk in a Book, as we do; the Truth of which is confirmed by gray eyes being found frequently among...
by ripliancum
March 20th, 2017, 1:00 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Book of Mormon Goats and Cattle
Replies: 75
Views: 4580

Re: Book of Mormon Goats and Cattle

The middle east dna predates European arrival Kennwick man has middle east dna. Scientist say it arrived in America around 12000BC but there is no genetic pathway from the Middle east to North America. The middle east native American dna marker is not found in Asia or Siberia. According to scientist...
by ripliancum
March 20th, 2017, 12:48 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories
Replies: 75
Views: 5580

Re: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories

The Mik maq used Egyptian Hieroglyphs. The Mik Maq also stated that they sailed to America and were visited by a beautiful man who performed miracles. http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.com/2016/09/native-american-egyptian-hieroglyph.html Its really sad that FAIR and the Neal A Maxwell Institute r...
by ripliancum
March 20th, 2017, 12:29 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Remains of Nephite/Hopewell fortifications
Replies: 36
Views: 2551

Re: Remains of Nephite/Hopewell fortifications

The season of war for the lamanites and nephites were spring and summer not winter. In my opinion its ridiculous to say that buffalo did not occupy the areas of the Great lakes. In the 1870 the settlers were trying to wipe out the buffalo. So the their migratory paths proably extended in the great l...
by ripliancum
March 18th, 2017, 11:47 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories
Replies: 75
Views: 5580

Re: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories

This is what I and everybody else is saying. If Joseph Smith did write that article in times and season it contradicts what we know with 100% certainty that Joseph Smith written about where the location of the Nephites were located. LETTER PENNED BY JOSEPH SMITH TO EMMA DURRING ZION’S CAMP MARCH WHI...
by ripliancum
March 18th, 2017, 11:43 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Book of Mormon Goats and Cattle
Replies: 75
Views: 4580

Re: Book of Mormon Goats and Cattle

I'm just going by what research has shown. The research has shown that North American Native Americans have dna that originates in the middle east. That can't be said for central and south American indigenous tribes. Nearly one-third of Native American genes come from west Eurasian peoples with ties...
by ripliancum
March 18th, 2017, 11:37 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Remains of Nephite/Hopewell fortifications
Replies: 36
Views: 2551

Re: Remains of Nephite/Hopewell fortifications

Those are for 1870 that's 2000 years after the Book of Mormon. The lack of buffalo in the great lakes could easily be due to human predation

Besides considering there are no migrating beast in South or central America its the only option.
by ripliancum
March 18th, 2017, 11:16 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories
Replies: 75
Views: 5580

Re: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories

Based on DNA analysis I would say those in central America and South America are not descendants of Lehi. DNA shows a link to Asia. Only North American Indians have DNA markers that originate in the middle east. Fair and Neal A Maxwell Institute do not have one pro North American researcher. But alo...
by ripliancum
March 18th, 2017, 11:04 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Book of Mormon Goats and Cattle
Replies: 75
Views: 4580

Re: Book of Mormon Goats and Cattle

The North American Tribes are not related to the Meso American civilizations their cultures are completely different.

Also only Middle East DNA is Found in North American Natives. Its not found in central America.
by ripliancum
March 17th, 2017, 11:58 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories
Replies: 75
Views: 5580

Re: Pros and Cons of Heartland vs. MesoAmerica Theories

Sorry Sandman. The statements in issues of the 1842 Times and Seasons discussing what Lloyd Stephens, et al., found in Mesoamerica and the surmises that these were the likely locations for the Land of Zarahemla, etc., were written by Joseph Smith. John Lund did an exhaustive study showing this. I'v...
by ripliancum
March 17th, 2017, 11:54 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Remains of Nephite/Hopewell fortifications
Replies: 36
Views: 2551

Re: Remains of Nephite/Hopewell fortifications

If Im wrong prove it. Show me in scripture that says otherwise Concerning climate and Buffalo Book of Mormon has seasons Meso America does not have season except for hot and hotter. Book of Mormon beast migrated according to the season from north to south. (Mosiah 18:4, Alma 22:31, Alma 46:40) Centr...
by ripliancum
March 17th, 2017, 11:23 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Remains of Nephite/Hopewell fortifications
Replies: 36
Views: 2551

Re: Remains of Nephite/Hopewell fortifications

Larsen there is not one single verse in the Book of Mormon that one single building or buildings were made out of stone. Can you name one meso american civilization that there primary building material was wood. Daub and wattle is cement. The land of desolation had timber until they used it all. Tim...