By allowing millions of members to continue paying like that, that is exactly what they’re teaching.
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- January 28th, 2023, 12:53 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Tithing
- Replies: 100
- Views: 2001
Re: Tithing
- January 27th, 2023, 7:00 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Tithing
- Replies: 100
- Views: 2001
Re: Tithing
As a bishop, I had a blind convert who lived on about $750 per month. After all of her expenses were paid (she was completely reliant on the government for income), she had about $20 left per month. I told her that tithing paid on that $20 was all that was expected. I very well may have been wrong ...
- January 27th, 2023, 6:57 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Tithing
- Replies: 100
- Views: 2001
Re: Tithing
Tithing should be paid on increase. So she pays on what's left after her medical bills. If there's nothing left she pays nothing but can still in effect claim to be a tithe payer. That makes sense, but I don't think that is what she was taught (she is a newish member). Do you know any scriptures th...
- January 26th, 2023, 2:47 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Tithing
- Replies: 100
- Views: 2001
Re: Tithing
Tithing should be paid on increase. So she pays on what's left after her medical bills. If there's nothing left she pays nothing but can still in effect claim to be a tithe payer. That makes sense, but I don't think that is what she was taught (she is a newish member). Do you know any scriptures th...
- January 26th, 2023, 1:33 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Church takes scripture out of context to promote...wokeness.
- Replies: 9
- Views: 426
Re: Church takes scripture out of context to promote...wokeness.
And how do you know he’s talking to the church when he uses the word “Gentiles”?
Verse 29 accuses them of priestcrafts in the middle of a string of verses listing their crimes.
Secular organizations don’t operate in priestcrafts.
Verse 29 accuses them of priestcrafts in the middle of a string of verses listing their crimes.
Secular organizations don’t operate in priestcrafts.
- January 25th, 2023, 5:35 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Should you validate a person's belief even if you think it's wrong? (POLL)
- Replies: 27
- Views: 739
Re: Should you validate a person's belief even if you think it's wrong? (POLL)
This is an interesting question posed by a friend of mine while discussing "transgenderism" - My friend believes that you should validate a person in their own beliefs even if they are "outside the truth" in his view. On the other hand, I believe that it's harmful to validate a ...
- January 24th, 2023, 5:21 pm
- Forum: Gospel Discussions
- Topic: When did Christ’s NT church apostatize?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 528
Re: When did Christ’s NT church apostatize?
It started before Jesus had died. With what event and persons? Jesus repeatedly condemned certain tendencies in his sermons, so it is obvious it was already happening then. I see this early on in his three year mission. Jesus periodically corrected his apostles too. Judas Iscariot was an obvious ap...
- January 24th, 2023, 4:12 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Meet Gerrit Gong...former CFR member, prolific pro globalist/communist writer...
- Replies: 166
- Views: 4764
Re: Meet Gerrit Gong...former CFR member, prolific pro globalist/communist writer...
I am not the smartest person when it comes to world affairs and politics and have only begun learning things since the covid debacle began. So at the risk of sounding stupid, can someone explain what the council on foreign relations is and why it would be considered a bad thing for someone to be a ...
- January 24th, 2023, 11:35 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Meet Gerrit Gong...former CFR member, prolific pro globalist/communist writer...
- Replies: 166
- Views: 4764
Re: Meet Gerrit Gong...former CFR member, prolific pro globalist/communist writer...
You think that he didn't know where $12000-ish dollars were going? That's pure silliness. They were going to the abortionist party of the good US of A. Tithing money, even.Ferrisbueller wrote: ↑January 24th, 2023, 11:21 am UctDorf’s democratic donation was from a blind trust.
- January 24th, 2023, 11:32 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Meet Gerrit Gong...former CFR member, prolific pro globalist/communist writer...
- Replies: 166
- Views: 4764
Re: Meet Gerrit Gong...former CFR member, prolific pro globalist/communist writer...
It is the same Church you and I grew up in. It's Jesus Christ's Church. Some men have defiled it and some in the past have made it great. Regardless it is still Christ's Church. You know what you know to be true, stick with it. The Priesthood is still there and the authority to to preform ordinance...
- January 22nd, 2023, 9:26 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?
- Replies: 83
- Views: 2507
Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?
You should find and study all the official apologies from the church to learn what must happen before they issue one. Let us know how it goes. I cant remember ever seeing or hearing of one. And you won't. Recall that Dallin H Oaks stated that the church doesn't apologize. You know, like repentance....
- January 20th, 2023, 6:24 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Church "celebrates" 10 years with UNICEF...yes, that UNICEF
- Replies: 27
- Views: 913
Re: Church "celebrates" 10 years with UNICEF...yes, that UNICEF
How dare the Church find areas of common ground and then unite with a group bigger than itself to take care of babies, children and refugees!!!! Shocking, I tell you!!! This is exactly as Jesus Christ would do in this day and age. You guys need to stop pretending that you are on an island. No Jesus...
- January 17th, 2023, 9:11 pm
- Forum: Last Days (Signs of the Times, Emergency Prep, Health)
- Topic: When does the SHTF ?
- Replies: 123
- Views: 3596
Re: When does the SHTF ?
Each eclipse passed through 7 cities named "Salem" which means "Peace" ... That's interesting. I didn't even know we had 7 cities by that name in this country. I think the SHTF after the second eclipse in April 2024. This nearly 7 year period of time must certainly be a sign tha...
- January 17th, 2023, 6:42 pm
- Forum: Last Days (Signs of the Times, Emergency Prep, Health)
- Topic: When does the SHTF ?
- Replies: 123
- Views: 3596
Re: When does the SHTF ?
2024 marks the end of a 7 year space between 2 solar eclipses that cross paths near Jackson County Missouri - crossing over the New Madrid fault line, which last had a major shakeup when Joseph Smith was 6 yrs old. https://www.crystalwind.ca/eureka-amazing/cosmic-stargate-portal/cosmic-events-journ...
- January 17th, 2023, 5:44 pm
- Forum: Last Days (Signs of the Times, Emergency Prep, Health)
- Topic: "Mens Hearts Will Fail Them"
- Replies: 31
- Views: 7823
Re: "Mens Hearts Will Fail Them"
If you think hearts are failing because of the vaccines as well as because of the difficulties of the world, you ain't seen nuthin' yet ...
- January 16th, 2023, 7:40 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Russell M. Nelson: Prophet or Shyster
- Replies: 201
- Views: 6757
Re: Russell M. Nelson: Prophet or Shyster
Prophet. Not infallible, is our premise. I'm just curious if that's how the parents of the 16 year old who read that FP letter and then had him take the immunization and then die within 48 hours should feel about the "prophets, seers, and revelators". Now repeat this situation thousands o...
- January 14th, 2023, 4:55 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Whether you believe it or not, why was this book declared classified?
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1499
- January 13th, 2023, 1:35 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Everest Romney's journey after the jab
- Replies: 27
- Views: 1336
Re: Everest Romney's journey after the jab
I wonder how the Romney's feel about the First Presidency's letter to everyone regarding the "godsend" "safe and effective" vaccine? I wonder if they could answer question #4 in their temple recommend interviews in the affirmative: "Do you sustain the members of the First P...
- January 12th, 2023, 10:45 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Are we still pretending that the Vaccine is "effective"
- Replies: 113
- Views: 3824
Re: Are we still pretending that the Vaccine is "effective"
They gave good solid council. People are not dropping like flies like posters on this forum make it out to be. Actively trying to persuade people to not get vaccinated is dangerous. MRNA jabs are not "vaccination". That is a post hoc redefinition of the term. I have had a number of vaccin...
- January 12th, 2023, 10:42 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Are we still pretending that the Vaccine is "effective"
- Replies: 113
- Views: 3824
Re: Are we still pretending that the Vaccine is "effective"
Maybe the clot shot was the fiery serpent and anyone who took that instead of relying on Christ needs to look up and be healed. Although in this analogy, Moses wasn’t telling anyone to go get bit by a serpent. Just a thought. Or covid is just another event now in history. Those who got shots won’t ...
- January 12th, 2023, 10:23 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Everest Romney's journey after the jab
- Replies: 27
- Views: 1336
Re: Everest Romney's journey after the jab
I wonder how the Romney's feel about the First Presidency's letter to everyone regarding the "godsend" "safe and effective" vaccine? I wonder if they could answer question #4 in their temple recommend interviews in the affirmative: "Do you sustain the members of the First Pr...
- January 11th, 2023, 11:28 am
- Forum: Gospel Discussions
- Topic: Power trip 🤯
- Replies: 129
- Views: 3271
Re: Power trip 🤯
I imagine that what I should expect to hear from a true servant would be something to this effect: Please do not ever put me on a pedestal. I am just an imperfect man and I am subject to sin and error as are all of us. I promise to do my best to follow the Spirit and do the will of the Lord, but I ...
- January 11th, 2023, 11:25 am
- Forum: Gospel Discussions
- Topic: Power trip 🤯
- Replies: 129
- Views: 3271
Re: Power trip 🤯
If you read the Book of Mormon and try to really analyze what its message is (especially the words of the resurrected Savior Himself), it isn't telling us in the last days to "cling to the prophet", to treat as celebrities the apostles, to "follow the covenant path", to attend t...
- January 11th, 2023, 9:07 am
- Forum: Gospel Discussions
- Topic: Power trip 🤯
- Replies: 129
- Views: 3271
Re: Power trip 🤯
If you read the Book of Mormon and try to really analyze what its message is (especially the words of the resurrected Savior Himself), it isn't telling us in the last days to "cling to the prophet", to treat as celebrities the apostles, to "follow the covenant path", to attend th...
- January 11th, 2023, 5:22 am
- Forum: Gospel Discussions
- Topic: Will the Lord hold you accountable for how the church spends your tithes?
- Replies: 86
- Views: 1793
Re: Will the Lord hold you accountable for how the church spends your tithes?
Short answer: No. Long answer: The Lord will not hold you accountable for the decisions of leaders about how to spend the Lord's money. The payer paid in good faith, the leaders decided things in bad faith. All the punishment goes towards the leaders that act in bad faith. Even if you feel they abu...