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by inho
November 11th, 2022, 3:34 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Question on Law of Chastity wording
Replies: 26
Views: 921

Re: Question on Law of Chastity wording

Wasn't there a change to this just in 2019? I think now it is "legally and lawfully wedded according to His law ". So a legal gay marriage will not do. On the other hand, the current wording is more ambiguous and could be interpreted to allow polygamy: Pre 2019 shall have no sexual relati...
by inho
November 10th, 2022, 2:00 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Question on Law of Chastity wording
Replies: 26
Views: 921

Re: Question on Law of Chastity wording

Chip wrote: November 10th, 2022, 1:45 pm But, what does "according to His always" mean? That wording is strange.
Sorry, seems like autocorrect has fixed a typo incorrectly. ☺️
"According to His law." I think they added that since same-sex marriage is more commonly legal now.
by inho
November 10th, 2022, 1:15 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Question on Law of Chastity wording
Replies: 26
Views: 921

Re: Question on Law of Chastity wording

Well… in the temple the promise now is to only allow sexual relations between males and female member of the “kingdom”. Is this for real? Very hard to believe. No. That seems to be a misunderstanding of the women of God’s kingdom and the men of God’s kingdom shall have no sexual relations except wi...
by inho
November 10th, 2022, 7:09 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Question on Law of Chastity wording
Replies: 26
Views: 921

Re: Question on Law of Chastity wording

Wasn't there a change to this just in 2019? I think now it is "legally and lawfully wedded according to His law ". So a legal gay marriage will not do. On the other hand, the current wording is more ambiguous and could be interpreted to allow polygamy: Pre 2019 shall have no sexual relatio...
by inho
November 4th, 2022, 9:16 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The gospel living app and your personal data
Replies: 5
Views: 275

Re: The gospel living app and your personal data

gkearney wrote: November 4th, 2022, 6:57 am I looked at this app. It would seem to be directed at youth and not the general membership. I am unsure how the circles feature of it could ever replace more standard forms of communication.
This was the first time I heard about it. Indeed, it seems to be for youth.
by inho
November 4th, 2022, 12:30 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Fact Checking the fact checkers
Replies: 18
Views: 472

Re: Fact Checking the fact checkers

I was with you until about here. If the data sheet is for the solution and the solution is what they really sell then the point is valid again. Do they sell just SM-102 not in solution? Is that what is in the vaccine? Is there a way to tell? Also, the data sheet linked says it's suspended in alcoho...
by inho
November 3rd, 2022, 2:58 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Fact Checking the fact checkers
Replies: 18
Views: 472

Re: Fact Checking the fact checkers

Fred wrote: November 3rd, 2022, 2:51 pm They have altered the original formula. But they still call it SM-102.
You got it the wrong way. The manufacturer still calls their product SM-102, even though what they really sell is a solution.
SM-102 is a synthetic aminolipid (C44H87NO5), not the solution.
by inho
November 3rd, 2022, 2:36 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Fact Checking the fact checkers
Replies: 18
Views: 472

Re: Fact Checking the fact checkers

The manufacturer uses trade name SM-102 for a solution that contains the actual SM-102 lipid. Their fact sheet makes clear that the solvant content of the product is 90%. This means that only 10% of the solution is actually SM-102. If they would sell salt, they would still call it sodium chloride, e...
by inho
November 3rd, 2022, 2:21 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Fact Checking the fact checkers
Replies: 18
Views: 472

Re: Fact Checking the fact checkers

But the product referenced there isn't raw SM-102. It's SM-102 mixed with chloroform, a colorless toxic liquid that the safety sheet indicates is the dangerous ingredient, not the SM-102. It is common for substances — like chloroform — to be mixed with other chemicals to help them properly dissolve...
by inho
November 3rd, 2022, 2:19 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Fact Checking the fact checkers
Replies: 18
Views: 472

Re: Fact Checking the fact checkers

Please guys, you are smarter than this
by inho
November 3rd, 2022, 2:12 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Fact Checking the fact checkers
Replies: 18
Views: 472

Re: Fact Checking the fact checkers

So basically it's a mixture of two dangerous components: 90% chloroform and 10% SM-102. Gotcha. Oh.. and it's not dangerous... because.... they said so.... OK. Read it one more time and maybe you get it. The vaccine contains SM-102. That is a lipid (i.e., one component). Cayman Chemical product inf...
by inho
November 3rd, 2022, 1:57 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Fact Checking the fact checkers
Replies: 18
Views: 472

Re: Fact Checking the fact checkers

Two things. If Choloform is not an ingredient in the Moderna vaccine, how can it be "SM-102 mixed with Chloroform'"? Secondly, the stated purpose of the chloroform is to "help them properly dissolve". This does not give us any indication that the substances are any less dangerou...
by inho
November 3rd, 2022, 1:45 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Fact Checking the fact checkers
Replies: 18
Views: 472

Re: Fact Checking the fact checkers

Whether doing fact checking or fact checking the fact checkers, it is good to be honest. This kind of misguided statements doesn’t really do any good, quite the contrary. So here is the full quote in context: The company's SM-102 safety sheet says the chemical is "fatal in contact with skin&quo...
by inho
October 30th, 2022, 2:37 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Interesting stake conference
Replies: 12
Views: 1023

Re: Interesting stake conference

The issue in the church is that we frequently get told about natural disasters (probably severe winters in the Finnish instance) and preparedness but never talk about the human generated side apart from maybe breakdown in law and order. In this forum we do. About the Finnish winter: my understandin...
by inho
October 30th, 2022, 2:14 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: There is no Nauvoo Temple revelation
Replies: 44
Views: 1209

Re: There is no Nauvoo Temple revelation

I hope I didn't misread it; I suppose I simply thought when you quoted 55 you meant to emphasize that part. Thanks for clarifying. My point was that verse 55 sounds to talk about the temple ("and again" as reference to verse 51 supports this), whereas 56 seems to start talking about somet...
by inho
October 30th, 2022, 2:09 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Interesting stake conference
Replies: 12
Views: 1023

Re: Interesting stake conference

Here is the degenerate Weffer prime minister, Sanna Marin dancing in New York. The same evening she was seen slithering all over various men and women. Imagine having this in charge. https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/08/finland-pm-sanna-marin-danced-intimately-07.jpg?quality=75&...
by inho
October 30th, 2022, 12:18 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: There is no Nauvoo Temple revelation
Replies: 44
Views: 1209

Re: There is no Nauvoo Temple revelation

I agree, the "And again" in verse 55 is worth considering. You seem to have misread my reply, since I didn’t write anything about "And again" in the verse 55. But since you brought this up, let me address it. In my opinion this is a clear reference to verse 51, where the Lord sa...
by inho
October 30th, 2022, 12:04 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Jeremiah 16:15-18
Replies: 5
Views: 213

Re: Jeremiah 16:15-18

Matthew 13:24-30 The wheat and the tares grow together. Then the tares are gathered in bundles, then the wheat are gathered into the barn. The gathering of Israel includes both the wheat and the tares. It’s a good thing for the righteous, and a bad thing for the wicked. That’s how I read and unders...
by inho
October 30th, 2022, 11:45 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Jeremiah 16:15-18
Replies: 5
Views: 213

Jeremiah 16:15-18

Jeremiah 16 15 But, The Lord liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers. 16 ¶ Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the Lord, and they ...
by inho
October 30th, 2022, 11:34 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: There is no Nauvoo Temple revelation
Replies: 44
Views: 1209

Re: There is no Nauvoo Temple revelation

JLHPROF wrote: October 30th, 2022, 11:31 am Another separation has to do with location.
Good observation
by inho
October 30th, 2022, 11:19 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: There is no Nauvoo Temple revelation
Replies: 44
Views: 1209

Re: There is no Nauvoo Temple revelation

Try to find where the Lord stops talking about the Nauvoo House and transitions to talking about the Nauvoo Temple. He does not. It's in plain English. I think your reading is interesting and plausible. For the sake of the conversation, let me try to push back. I think all can agree that verses 22-...
by inho
October 30th, 2022, 10:03 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Interesting stake conference
Replies: 12
Views: 1023

Interesting stake conference

My Finnish friends told me about stake conference which was held in Helsinki today. There were some interesting topics: Both the stake president and his counselor talked about preparedness this is perhaps not surprising, the inflation and the high energy prices mean that many Finnish people will str...
by inho
October 30th, 2022, 9:43 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: The original 1840s temple endowment
Replies: 109
Views: 3071

Re: The original 1840s temple endowment

Joseph didn't write it down, it was transmitted only orally. So there are only exposées, and they were usually written down some time after the experience. The word in the street is that Cutlerite endowment has remained unchanged. Since they branched as part of the succession crisis, that would rea...
by inho
October 30th, 2022, 9:26 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: The original 1840s temple endowment
Replies: 109
Views: 3071

Re: The original 1840s temple endowment

Of course we don't have the original endowment.....great. Joseph didn't write it down, it was transmitted only orally. So there are only exposées, and they were usually written down some time after the experience. The word in the street is that Cutlerite endowment has remained unchanged. Since they...
by inho
October 29th, 2022, 11:06 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Self examination for the sacrament
Replies: 15
Views: 500

Re: Self examination for the sacrament

Agreed. And todays failed practices of men telling believers they can’t take the bread, proves that the system does not work. It’s simply not their place to judge. It never was. I think people on here agree with us but this thread won’t get attention because people might be cautious to address it, ...