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by Thinker
November 30th, 2022, 6:11 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Key indicator to avoid deception
Replies: 26
Views: 804

Re: Key indicator to avoid deception

Joseph Smith gave a key indicator to help avoid deception, “That man who rises up to condemn others, finding fault with the Church, saying that they are out of the way, while he himself is righteous, then know assuredly, that that man is in the high road to apostasy; and if he does not repent, will...
by Thinker
November 30th, 2022, 6:01 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Key indicator to avoid deception
Replies: 26
Views: 804

Re: Key indicator to avoid deception

This is a description of actual/real prophets they rise up against the church and call it to repentance because the leaders are corrupted and are leading the members astray. Good point. Generally people shoot the messenger so few want to stick his/her neck out. If Joseph Smith hadn’t questioned all...
by Thinker
November 30th, 2022, 5:00 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Why I don’t pray to a heavenly mother
Replies: 99
Views: 1748

Re: Why I don’t pray to a heavenly mother

I don't see much need to continue conversation if people on here really take the "rib" creation story as literal. Not sure how anyone could go that far. The words and word play was written by ancient Jews returning from exile in Babylon. The principles of Adam and Eve are true but the sto...
by Thinker
November 30th, 2022, 4:48 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Why I don’t pray to a heavenly mother
Replies: 99
Views: 1748

Re: Why I don’t pray to a heavenly mother

Because almost all of the Mormons and ex-Mormons and all in between, don't seem to believe the BoM that the Father is the Son, but it seems you do. Good on you! How can a father be the son? https://i.pinimg.com/736x/63/64/5e/63645e75d0b909d71027720b75092833.jpg Christ wasn’t Yeshua/Jesus’s last nam...
by Thinker
November 30th, 2022, 4:33 pm
Forum: Off Topic / Miscellaneous Discussion
Topic: Humor - what's so funny?
Replies: 1140
Views: 158987

Re: Humor - what's so funny?

madvin wrote: November 30th, 2022, 7:42 am funny bit, but true (old snl skit):

https://twitter.com/theDossier_info/sta ... 2441411589
🤣 Truth

Reminds me of David Chapel on SNL explaining why many liked Trump - an honest liar 8-11: https://youtu.be/_m-gO0HSCYk
by Thinker
November 30th, 2022, 10:03 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The 14 Fundamentals in context
Replies: 26
Views: 989

Re: The 14 Fundamentals in context

*Why was Benson trying to get with the longest standing FBI director in US history (JE Hoover)? *On what grounds is Welch’s “Blue Book” accusing so many of being communists? *Did most Mormons really support the Democrat party before 1972? *What did Cleon Skousen do for FBI & church leaders? ** H...
by Thinker
November 30th, 2022, 9:32 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Faith crisis or Truth crisis?
Replies: 20
Views: 1284

Re: Faith crisis or Truth crisis?

I have repeatedly asked extended family to please not send Mormon stuff, trying to change my mind, but they keep doing it, like this morning. For that and other reasons, I’ve increased boundaries & won’t even try to respond. If I did respond, I might share this talk by a guy who left the church ...
by Thinker
November 29th, 2022, 10:02 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The 14 Fundamentals in context
Replies: 26
Views: 989

Re: The 14 Fundamentals in context

Luke, Think I found it: ETB was more afraid of those in charge in the church than those in Wa DC (2: 2nd hand account but confirmed by another) https://youtu.be/WvSYj2pE7NI It seems almost obvious that he was silenced first outright & then maybe physically (hurt, meds etc). Some still try to pai...
by Thinker
November 29th, 2022, 4:26 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The 14 Fundamentals in context
Replies: 26
Views: 989

Re: The 14 Fundamentals in context

Ezra Taft Benson once said that he was more afraid of the Gadiantons in the Church Office Building than any of the political Gadiantons. Hey, Luke, That’s ^ from another thread before, but I’m wondering if you know the quote. I’ve heard as much - actually sickening detail as to that & was surpr...
by Thinker
November 29th, 2022, 4:11 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The 14 Fundamentals in context
Replies: 26
Views: 989

Re: The 14 Fundamentals in context

Apparently, at least according to the following source, it was political views, not the “follow the prophet” stuff, that SWK had ETB apologize for… “… “Benson’s Birch crusade was tempo- rarily interrupted when Harold B. Lee became church president in 1972” (87), but after Lee died unexpectedly, “Ben...
by Thinker
November 29th, 2022, 2:30 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Lucifer's Sin: Touching God's Throne
Replies: 9
Views: 286

Re: Lucifer's Sin: Touching God's Throne

Abijah, Interesting, especially suggesting Heavenly Mother is the throne. I once attended a fireside presentation by an archeologist who explained archeology depicting a male God on a throne and behind him, a female Goddess on a throne. My first thought about this thread title is how God knows our h...
by Thinker
November 29th, 2022, 2:01 pm
Forum: Off Topic / Miscellaneous Discussion
Topic: Humor - what's so funny?
Replies: 1140
Views: 158987

Re: Humor - what's so funny?

News bloopers: (laughter is contagious & sometimes the pressure not to laugh is too much! :lol: ) https://youtu.be/NSUjXhWuGSc
by Thinker
November 28th, 2022, 7:35 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Family Home Evening (FHE) Ideas?
Replies: 27
Views: 1625

Re: Family Home Evening (FHE) Ideas?

Most recently: Grounded, knowing who u r Look only to God for guidance, approval, &compassion. “Pray without ceasing…” -1Theselonians 5 You are not a spiritual orphan but have a Heavenly Father and Mother - act like it! (focus on -“GOD”): https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F...
by Thinker
November 28th, 2022, 7:29 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: When Does One Opt Out?
Replies: 57
Views: 2100

Re: When Does One Opt Out?

I agree, and I am trying to help in ways that I can. Reaching out to young parents and encouraging them to once again have family prayers, family scripture reading time, family home evenings with service to others. Of the 34 employees in our little company, only 5 still attend any church services w...
by Thinker
November 28th, 2022, 1:18 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Christian Origins?
Replies: 225
Views: 40680

Re: Christian Origins?

Seneca fascinates me because he lived around the time of Christ and his ideas have reflected & helped shape history. “The Seneca Effect (“Collapses are the way the universe gets rid of the old to leave space for the new”) is based on Seneca’s quote: “growth is slow, but ruin is rapid.” Seneca wa...
by Thinker
November 28th, 2022, 11:45 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Mormons need to start fighting back against mockery- this is getting pathetic
Replies: 78
Views: 2162

Re: Mormons need to start fighting back against mockery- this is getting pathetic

What does "fighting back" look like to you? we have very poor media responses to these things. we just ignore or give an old "aw shucks, we are so nice, anyways, have a free BoM" we need a more cunning and tactical media strategy. im not arguing for violence or anything. but we ...
by Thinker
November 26th, 2022, 11:31 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: I am convinced CBDC is the mark of the Beast
Replies: 43
Views: 1395

Re: I am convinced CBDC is the mark of the Beast

Maybe so, maybe no.

What if… some scriptures are designed to be self-fulfilling prophesies? And what if many people having faith in such ungodly ideas helps manifest it?

That said, CBDC seems like a potentially very oppressive tool. Look at China.
by Thinker
November 26th, 2022, 1:55 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Why I don’t pray to a heavenly mother
Replies: 99
Views: 1748

Re: Why I don’t pray to a heavenly mother

….. “masculine and feminine manifestations (of God)...are complicated… everything in the eternal state is one great unity. There is no division. There is no time…” In the Lord’s Prayer contained within the Gospels, Jesus says Our Father in heaven, hallowed by thy name. Father is from the Greek “pat...
by Thinker
November 26th, 2022, 1:41 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: How to strengthen our hearts?
Replies: 28
Views: 1661

Re: How to strengthen our hearts?

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by Thinker
November 26th, 2022, 1:29 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Beautiful Places to Visit
Replies: 29
Views: 1271

Re: Beautiful Places to Visit

St Lucia in the Caribbean seems to have a lot - hiking and beach stuff… seems beautiful.

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by Thinker
November 26th, 2022, 1:07 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Native American lakes and canal system discovered in Idaho - dutchsinse
Replies: 17
Views: 495

Re: Native American lakes and canal system discovered in Idaho - dutchsinse

Picky picky… “The church, commonly referred to as the Mormons, really wants people to stop using that word. It also wants people to stop using LDS as an abbreviation. From now on, it prefers that people use the church’s full name… the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.” Contrary to popular...
by Thinker
November 26th, 2022, 11:00 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: 750+ Studies about the dangers of the jab.
Replies: 27
Views: 992

Re: 750+ Studies about the dangers of the jab.

There have always been those quick to tear down or accuse their Brethren. But they've never been true Saints. God be with you.. Only a shortsighted view of existence blames God for suffering when everywhere we can look for billions of years across space time is the absence of life and death. Impres...
by Thinker
November 26th, 2022, 10:42 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Official Church statement: Respect for Marriage Act
Replies: 445
Views: 15412

Re: Official Church statement: Respect for Marriage Act

…And I never said we didn't need a government... I said the government shouldn't be involved in marriage.… That perspective shows ignorance about the many children who are born to parents who break up & don’t put their children first (many, including lds divorcees). What exactly do you think wo...
by Thinker
November 26th, 2022, 10:28 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Official Church statement: Respect for Marriage Act
Replies: 445
Views: 15412

Re: Official Church statement: Respect for Marriage Act

…And I never said we didn't need a government... I said the government shouldn't be involved in marriage.… That perspective shows ignorance about the many children who are born to parents who break up & don’t put their children first (many, including lds divorcees). What exactly do you think wo...