It's funny to read this thread I started. I wish I had bought back then, I won't lie. I was skeptical back in 2011, though I did applaud its creation and innovation in the marketplace. I'm surprised the government has put up with it this long and has let it become what it has. The fact that they see...

Ok, now Feb 2016, which I'm sure won't be the case. :) But they got a nice new page of info on the book and author, but more importantly, page count: 800 pages. Ahhhh yes. Can't wait. 400 of them bound to be footnotes, but I like those too. Was hoping Nov 15th would finally stick but it came and we...

There are no plans to publish the William Clayton Diary at this time. Damn shame. It has been estimated we have only 25% (!) of Clayton's diary. Given what we DO have, I can only imagine what other beautiful nuggets are in there. in order to verify Joseph Smith’s “final charge” to the Twelve (which...

Lol, Janadele... you are STILL pounding away at these threads...

Here is text of that talk he gave to Centennial Park (not including Q&A portion).

lgr3065, you are very mistaken as far as what is recorded about Hyrum's knowledge and presentation and defense of D&C 132 to Nauvoo HC and elders. You are looking at one record among dozens and making a conclusion that fits your paradigm. Look at my previous comments on D&C 132 which describ...

So after Quinn's third and final Mormon Hierarchy book, he has another one coming. He just signed a book contract with the University of Utah Press. "A detailed history of plural marriage among the Mormons from Sep 1890 to Dec 1907, or 1915 or 1925" - depending on how much original source ...

In your eyes, too much credibility is given to EVERY SINGLE PERSON whoever said Joseph taught and practiced polygamy (which included sex). That's where you're stuck with a delusion. Doesn't matter if it's shown that they were loyal to Joseph all throughout Kirtland and Nauvoo, it doesn't matter if t...

I still haven't read/listened to the polygamy talk. Did Denver make the claim that he had knowledge from heaven about Joseph Smith's polygamy, or are you assuming he does? No. States his opinion over and over again. If he is going to make a claim without "The Denver's Approach" appeal to ...

Ok, now Feb 2016, which I'm sure won't be the case. But they got a nice new page of info on the book and author, but more importantly, page count: 800 pages. Ahhhh yes. Can't wait. 400 of them bound to be footnotes, but I like those too.

lol I hated that stupid button from the beginning and refused to click it. It also became too facebooky/popularity contesty. It was the same people who would like the same people's posts, became very predictable. But I'd be interested to hear from Brian why it was removed.

Marlin K. Jenson thought otherwise... Interesting difference of interpretation of what has been going on.

Latest release date for Quinn's forthcoming book: Jan 2016

We try to have at least one vegetable every night as part of our meal. But I also find it a lot easier to get colorful vegetables into my system in their raw glory by juicing. Very convenient and fun. Try to do a veggie juice almost every day.

David Cohen anyone?

Rated R ... never seen it ... don't really care either. Yeah, leave it up to BABYLON'S RATING system to determine what is clean and what is not. Does this mean you've never seen About Time? It is Rated R, yet is one of the most uplifting and positive movies about the importance of family. R rating ...

For those interested in the topic of women and priesthood, here are a bunch of quotes I've collected over the years.

The book is bad and mostly a waste of time, and reading this review which feels as long as the book is also a waste of time. I can't believe you spent that much time writing this up. Yikes.

friendsofthe wrote:Ah…yes, LDS Freedom Forum, where grumbling about the church and it’s leaders is always in fashion…..

This place has changed a lot from when I first joined. I visit/participate less and less.

The restorationist's best argument in Joseph Fought Polygamy was such a laughingstock to me (and even more so to historians) that I hardly doubt I can waste more time on an even more obscure book that makes a similar argument (especially when I have about 200+ quality books in my to-read list). I've...

If you listened to the Metcalf interview a few weeks ago, you'll quickly realize the new podcast won't be very good, and there will be a very strong agenda to proving the gospel incorrect. Hardly going to be an honest Mormon Studies project.

Any books on adam-god or polygamy? Ya know... the good stuff?

Just kidding, I think I've already read all of them.

gkearney wrote:The movie is very long at 3.5 hours so take that into account

Where did you get the extra 40 minutes from? Staring at the screen afterwards?

Couldn't get the stupid movie out of my head all day today. I went and saw it again tonight (not IMAX this time, which was nice because I feel like I could understand the dialogue a bit better, though not 100% better). It is even better the second time. I was able to process and take it in much bett...