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by LDS Watchman
November 8th, 2022, 4:25 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: The original 1840s temple endowment
Replies: 109
Views: 2933

Re: The original 1840s temple endowment

Yes, he does. The whole milk before meet thing. Please show that by using scriptures, not just I say so. Moses and the transition from a higher law to a lower one. Hmm, where is higher and lower law in the scriptures? I know Christians use these phrases, but I don't know where they are in scripture...
by LDS Watchman
November 8th, 2022, 11:32 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: The original 1840s temple endowment
Replies: 109
Views: 2933

Re: The original 1840s temple endowment

SJR3t2 wrote: November 8th, 2022, 8:34 am
LDS Watchman wrote: November 6th, 2022, 12:50 pm
SJR3t2 wrote: November 6th, 2022, 12:18 pm
YHWH doesn't remove doctrine because people don't like it, men do that. BY disagrees about needing to believe it.
Yes, he does. The whole milk before meet thing.
Please show that by using scriptures, not just I say so.
Moses and the transition from a higher law to a lower one.
by LDS Watchman
November 7th, 2022, 9:57 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?
Replies: 262
Views: 7957

Re: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?

Personally I take the Lord at his word that he had more stuff to reveal in the temple once it was done. When did the Lord say that he had more to reveal in the Nauvoo Temple than what Joseph revealed to his inner circle in the Red Brick store? As far as I'm aware, Joseph Smith said the opposite.
by LDS Watchman
November 7th, 2022, 9:36 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?
Replies: 262
Views: 7957

Re: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?

FrankOne wrote: November 7th, 2022, 9:29 pm

At this time, I feel the weight upon me for making the errors of mocking you. I sincerely apologize.

Good luck to you on your course.
Thank you. I accept your apology.
by LDS Watchman
November 7th, 2022, 9:15 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Make not gods of your prophets
Replies: 569
Views: 9397

Re: Make not gods of your prophets

Trying to get back to the OP. I keep wondering how people in the LDS church justify statements from the brethren that they cannot lead the members astray. I think they try to chalk it up to the confidence that these men have in that the Lord won’t allow the church to falter. But to me it is a clear...
by LDS Watchman
November 7th, 2022, 9:11 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?
Replies: 262
Views: 7957

Re: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?

Nothing was revealed in the Nauvoo Temple? Really? The thousands of Saints who received their endowments in the Nauvoo temple would beg to differ. If it has already been revealed, it is already revealed. They were just late to the party. Is there no English word you won't twist to your advantage? L...
by LDS Watchman
November 7th, 2022, 9:06 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?
Replies: 262
Views: 7957

Re: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?

Ironically, LDSW has written sufficient on his blog to get himself exxed from the church. The handbook would give his SP sufficient ammo to send him packing. Nope, I shared my concerns with my Bishop and Stake President. And nothing happened to me. They didn't even release me from my leadership cal...
by LDS Watchman
November 7th, 2022, 7:23 pm
Forum: Introduce yourself...
Topic: I'm confused;
Replies: 240
Views: 5257

Re: I'm confused;

It might not be 3xa tly what you said, but it is the essence of what you are saying. You hijacked this thread with a strawman argument - let's get back to the original post. Christ stood AGAINST the powers that be and was unwavering. He was crucified for it! He did " what was right", rega...
by LDS Watchman
November 7th, 2022, 6:34 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?
Replies: 262
Views: 7957

Re: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?

It is the exact same thing. You're like a damn broken record, only parroting back things you have already said while ignoring everything else. Explain to me how absolutely nothing was revealed in the Nauvoo Temple, how it was all already revealed in the Red Brick store and how that doesn't make God...
by LDS Watchman
November 7th, 2022, 12:53 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?
Replies: 262
Views: 7957

Re: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?

It is the exact same thing. You're like a damn broken record, only parroting back things you have already said while ignoring everything else. Explain to me how absolutely nothing was revealed in the Nauvoo Temple, how it was all already revealed in the Red Brick store and how that doesn't make God...
by LDS Watchman
November 7th, 2022, 12:03 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Make not gods of your prophets
Replies: 569
Views: 9397

Re: Make not gods of your prophets

The Lord called the church his church after the name change and had said that the Church can only be his if it is in his name. Therefore, his name was still upon the church. Except it didn't have his name on it. Yes, he still owns it, but I've mentioned that 2 or 3 times without you acknowledging t...
by LDS Watchman
November 7th, 2022, 11:59 am
Forum: Introduce yourself...
Topic: I'm confused;
Replies: 240
Views: 5257

Re: I'm confused;

It might not be 3xa tly what you said, but it is the essence of what you are saying. You hijacked this thread with a strawman argument - let's get back to the original post. Christ stood AGAINST the powers that be and was unwavering. He was crucified for it! He did " what was right", rega...
by LDS Watchman
November 7th, 2022, 11:50 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?
Replies: 262
Views: 7957

Re: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?

Shawn Henry wrote: November 7th, 2022, 11:33 am
That is not and cannot be the same.
It is the exact same thing.
by LDS Watchman
November 7th, 2022, 11:46 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Make not gods of your prophets
Replies: 569
Views: 9397

Re: Make not gods of your prophets

Still in the same boat. What boat? If your interpretation were correct, which it is not, the saints would still be without the name of Christ upon them and the words of Abinadi that the rejection of the higher law in the latter days would occur are fulfilled. No, not all. The Lord called the church...
by LDS Watchman
November 7th, 2022, 11:43 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?
Replies: 262
Views: 7957

Re: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?

Where the higher ordinances revealed by Joseph Smith in the Red Brick Store administered in the dedicated Nauvoo Temple? Yes or no? You can interpret what the Lord said for yourself. Obviously he had something in mind. Why are you dodging the question? Where the higher ordinances revealed by Joseph...
by LDS Watchman
November 7th, 2022, 6:19 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?
Replies: 262
Views: 7957

Re: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?

Where the higher ordinances revealed by Joseph Smith in the Red Brick Store administered in the dedicated Nauvoo Temple? This just opens up a whole new weakness in your argument. The Lord is quite clear that his House had to be built in order to reveal his ordinances, but the Red Brick store comple...
by LDS Watchman
November 7th, 2022, 6:05 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Make not gods of your prophets
Replies: 569
Views: 9397

Re: Make not gods of your prophets

What is the church? It's a body of believers. When Christ or Joseph Smith speak of the church, they are speaking of the church membership. See for example: 67 Behold, this is my doctrine—whosoever repenteth and cometh unto me, the same is my church. (D&C 10) Still in the same boat. What boat? I...
by LDS Watchman
November 7th, 2022, 6:03 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?
Replies: 262
Views: 7957

Re: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?

Man, you're piece of work. Have you ever heard of context? What was I saying before I said that the temple had been completed? Here's the first response I made to your claim that the church was rejected over failing to complete the Nauvoo temple. You are the one who is lying and making false accusa...
by LDS Watchman
November 7th, 2022, 6:00 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?
Replies: 262
Views: 7957

Re: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?

I just have one account. This is not though. Now you are back to purposeful misdirect. He didn't say you have 4 accounts, he said you are on your fourth. My previous accounts have all been rolled into one account. And you guys have no idea why I have had multiple accounts. It has nothing to do with...
by LDS Watchman
November 6th, 2022, 8:31 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?
Replies: 262
Views: 7957

Re: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?

He’s on his fourth account… that we know of. It's like an apologetic addiction, I guess. I'm not sure why honesty simply can't prevail. Would it be so hard to say, yes, it looks like the saints didn't meet the conditions in section 124, but I trust that they did. Or how about simply saying, I agree...
by LDS Watchman
November 6th, 2022, 7:51 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?
Replies: 262
Views: 7957

Re: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?

You should stay posting under a new account, because you have trashed the reputation of this one. I think he has already done this, if I'm reading old threads correctly. He’s on his fourth account… that we know of. I just have one account. But your obsession with trying to make me look bad is simpl...
by LDS Watchman
November 6th, 2022, 7:06 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?
Replies: 262
Views: 7957

Re: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?

Saying that the Lord witnessed your lie is not taking the Lord's name in vain. This apparently is yet another thing that you have no understanding of. Just look at how you lie, it's sad and I'm embarrassed for you. It seems like you just say whatever you want and claim that you already said it. LDS...
by LDS Watchman
November 6th, 2022, 2:56 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?
Replies: 262
Views: 7957

Re: Poll: LDS church is true, but everyone is false?

Saying that the Lord witnessed your lie is not taking the Lord's name in vain. This apparently is yet another thing that you have no understanding of. Just look at how you lie, it's sad and I'm embarrassed for you. It seems like you just say whatever you want and claim that you already said it. LDS...
by LDS Watchman
November 6th, 2022, 12:55 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: King Noah sounds like Brigham Young
Replies: 57
Views: 1653

Re: King Noah sounds like Brigham Young

You are saying John the Baptist had less authority then we do today? That's not what I said. Please elaborate. What do you want me to elaborate on? I didn't mention John the Baptist. The Jews were operating under the Aaronic priesthood at that time. The endowment and other ordinances of the Melchiz...
by LDS Watchman
November 6th, 2022, 12:50 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: The original 1840s temple endowment
Replies: 109
Views: 2933

Re: The original 1840s temple endowment

SJR3t2 wrote: November 6th, 2022, 12:18 pm
YHWH doesn't remove doctrine because people don't like it, men do that. BY disagrees about needing to believe it.
Yes, he does. The whole milk before meet thing.