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by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 27th, 2021, 10:24 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: I am leaving and will never post here again
Replies: 57
Views: 2457

I am leaving and will never post here again

I don't like my very in-depth posts that are highly sourced and written in a very "I believe this, because of x" manner being blatantly ignored when people quote said posts and act like the question they asked of me still wasn't answered and/or follow up saying falsehoods about what I beli...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 27th, 2021, 2:49 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saint's vision of 2030
Replies: 55
Views: 2673

Re: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saint's vision of 2030

Are there as many versions of visions for 2030 as there are versions of the first vision?
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 27th, 2021, 2:47 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Where we are commanded to take an interest in conspiracies
Replies: 10
Views: 386

Re: Where we are commanded to take an interest in conspiracies

I just can't believe so many of you are so hateful towards the brethren and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in general. Honestly, what has President Nelson ever done that has personally affected you? Hating a dead man like Wilford Woodruff or Brigham Young? I sincerely feel bad for y...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 27th, 2021, 2:32 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Where we are commanded to take an interest in conspiracies
Replies: 10
Views: 386

Re: Where we are commanded to take an interest in conspiracies

The Book of Mormon: You are commanded when these things come upon you to wake up to a sense of your awful situation BUT according to the people here, the only secret combinations and conspiracies that are kosher to discuss are modern-day ones. You will be welcomed with open arms if you think the chu...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 27th, 2021, 2:02 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers
Replies: 125
Views: 3010

Re: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers

AGoodGlobalCitizen, Are you a Christian ? I am a born again Christian. I believe Jehovah spoke to many prophets anciently and I believe the Book of Mormon is true and has been translated by said Smith. I believe Christ has healed my soul from sexual addictions and has allowed me to see the errors o...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 27th, 2021, 11:42 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers
Replies: 125
Views: 3010

Re: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers

Being a warrior or not being a warrior has nothing to do with whether or not someone died a martyr A martyr peacefully dies. Like the converted Lamanites who did not fight but let their enemies fall on them and kill them without fighting back That is martyrdom. Killing two people on your way out is ...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 27th, 2021, 8:46 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers
Replies: 125
Views: 3010

Re: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers

Imagine that. Another thread having zero to do with polygamy, gets turned into yet another polygamy thread. Nobody's obsessed with polygamy on LDSFF though... Somebody thought it would be cute to use Joseph Smith (of all the people in the world) to pick on a marginalized group of people who do not ...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 26th, 2021, 10:13 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers
Replies: 125
Views: 3010

Re: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers

So you think polygamy is bad, ok. You're going to throw out Joseph and everything else he accomplished and revealed, because in your opinion he wasn't honest about his relationships with some women? I couldn't care less if the church is on the right path or not, I couldn't care less if Joseph made ...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 26th, 2021, 9:45 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers
Replies: 125
Views: 3010

Re: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers

(adding this to another post since I edited it into the original post after that one was acknowledged) Here is the contents of the letter on this point (from William McLellin to Joseph Smith's son, Joseph Smith III, published in The William E. McLellin Papers 1854-1880, page 489); You referred to po...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 26th, 2021, 9:22 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers
Replies: 125
Views: 3010

Re: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers

When you say he may have fallen as soon as he started organizing the Church, is that when you think he started secretly practicing polygamy? Emma said on her deathbed that he never taught nor practiced polygamy, at least not that she knew of. That doesn’t fit with a few of the claims of the polygam...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 26th, 2021, 6:45 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Moroni's Trumpet was made of Macaroni
Replies: 55
Views: 2779

Re: Moroni's Trumpet was made of Macaroni

I have a quick question. Why do we care about what Ace has to say?
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 26th, 2021, 6:04 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Moroni's Trumpet was made of Macaroni
Replies: 55
Views: 2779

Re: Moroni's Trumpet was made of Macaroni

I watched the video. I thought it was interesting. The guy speaking seems like a decent guy. I feel like you can almost see seething disgust being held back in him when the person behind the camera talks about Joseph Smith and that makes me sad but I'm not surprised. Boy have my thoughts and feelin...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 26th, 2021, 4:26 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers
Replies: 125
Views: 3010

Re: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers

I know that 132 was not added to the D&C until 10 years after Joseph’s death. And there was...I think it was Section 104 condemning plural marriage. Do you feel his style had already changed? I think it was Section 101 in the 1835 edition. I don't know. I can't pinpoint a definitive day or mome...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 26th, 2021, 3:52 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers
Replies: 125
Views: 3010

Re: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers

Would you mind clarifying this part? This was published in the Book of Commandments (precursor to the Doctrine and Covenants) as revelation given to Joseph from the Lord in 1829. It was regarding Martin Harris' inquiries on whether or not Joseph had the plates. This is Book of Commandments, section...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 26th, 2021, 3:36 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers
Replies: 125
Views: 3010

Re: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers

I trust Oliver You’re not alone in this as may be explored here . Thank you for this. McLellin was one of the original 12 Mormon apostles (a continual believer of the Book of Mormon even though he left Joseph Smith) and provides a lot of insight into the Emma Smith catching Joseph and Fanny in a ba...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 26th, 2021, 2:48 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers
Replies: 125
Views: 3010

Re: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers

Is it not true that there are no genetic matches with his posterity outside of Emma? Could he really have been such a busy scoundrel and never gotten anyone pregnant? I am aware that we have no identifiable offspring from his alleged extra-marital affairs. I don't have an answer for every "Jos...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 26th, 2021, 2:20 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers
Replies: 125
Views: 3010

Re: Joseph Smith knocks flat earthers

He also knocked teenage girls and broke his wife's heart in the name of God By their fruits you shall know them: Mormonism went nowhere other than shaping the state of Utah and using the "religion to acquire money" secret combination card better than most Not true. You should be careful a...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 26th, 2021, 10:46 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Would you call selling the copyright of scripture from God to Babylon for money, "building up a church to get gain"?
Replies: 5
Views: 317

Would you call selling the copyright of scripture from God to Babylon for money, "building up a church to get gain"?

Would such an act fall under taking scripture from God lightly? If someone who attempted to do this (but failed) also lost 116 pages worth of material of said scripture due to a pattern of behavior desiring to please men around him, how much more foolish/disrespectful does it look to attempt to sell...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 20th, 2021, 9:55 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Another historical revision – Hyrum Smith’s missing anti-polygamy discourse from April 1844
Replies: 188
Views: 4164

Re: Another historical revision – Hyrum Smith’s missing anti-polygamy discourse from April 1844

The truth is out there. I'm praying it will release and destroy the lies of Mormonism history
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 18th, 2021, 10:53 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: What they NEVER tell you when they bring up Oliver's return to "the church"
Replies: 62
Views: 2176

Re: What they NEVER tell you when they bring up Oliver's return to "the church"

Are these the famous McLellin papers Hoffman was selling to Hinckley? Just curious, watched the mini-serious on Hoffman a couple months back and his big play that landed him in jail was finding the McLellin papers and selling them to the church (via rich proxies). Great catch, and you are partly co...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 17th, 2021, 7:01 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: What they NEVER tell you when they bring up Oliver's return to "the church"
Replies: 62
Views: 2176

Re: What they NEVER tell you when they bring up Oliver's return to "the church"

I received a book in the mail today that I ordered. It is the William E McLellin Papers (1854-1880). I'm going to share some stuff from the book that I think relates to the original post of this thread. McLellin was one of the original 12 Mormon apostles. He left the church in 1936 but he always bel...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 17th, 2021, 10:47 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: What they NEVER tell you when they bring up Oliver's return to "the church"
Replies: 62
Views: 2176

Re: What they NEVER tell you when they bring up Oliver's return to "the church"

This brings up an interesting point. If the doctrine of polygamy was false doctrine... then what did the Lord command us to continue doing in his revelation to W.W. in the 1889 revelation? What did the Lord command us not to concede to government about? And what of the revelation received previousl...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 17th, 2021, 10:07 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: What they NEVER tell you when they bring up Oliver's return to "the church"
Replies: 62
Views: 2176

Re: What they NEVER tell you when they bring up Oliver's return to "the church"

What I’m struggling with right now is finding any evidence that Joseph turned around and accused Oliver of practicing polygamy. Every accusation of Oliver I’m finding seems to be a creation of Brigham Young and his followers (And when they do, they hilariously contradict their own timelines to the ...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 17th, 2021, 12:12 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: What they NEVER tell you when they bring up Oliver's return to "the church"
Replies: 62
Views: 2176

Re: What they NEVER tell you when they bring up Oliver's return to "the church"

I understand that but Joseph was accusing Oliver of adultery ( I'm trying to find a source on this, I believe I have read this a number of times before, I thought it was common knowledge, but now I've seen it isn't as clear as I'd thought, I am trying to find sources on Joseph calling Oliver an adul...
by AGoodGlobalCitizen
June 16th, 2021, 10:44 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: How to know if you have the Spirit- David Whitmer
Replies: 30
Views: 843

Re: How to know if you have the Spirit- David Whitmer

Thank you for sharing this. I have a very hard time loving and feeling anything positive for people, beliefs and movements that I feel are evil. I need to remember Christ's words on this more often.