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by Pazooka
February 5th, 2023, 5:41 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Upon this rock I will build my assembly
Replies: 10
Views: 216

Re: Upon this rock I will build my assembly

I doubt they were called by Greek names while they lived. It would have been the compilers of the NT that gave them those names. I think this is right, although it's not impossible. In bilingual areas, people can have more than one name. It is thought that they would have conversed in Aramaic, unde...
by Pazooka
February 5th, 2023, 5:21 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Upon this rock I will build my assembly
Replies: 10
Views: 216

Re: Upon this rock I will build my assembly

I doubt they were called by Greek names while they lived. It would have been the compilers of the NT that gave them those names. I think this is right, although it's not impossible. In bilingual areas, people can have more than one name. It is thought that they would have conversed in Aramaic, unde...
by Pazooka
February 5th, 2023, 3:16 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Upon this rock I will build my assembly
Replies: 10
Views: 216

Re: Upon this rock I will build my assembly

Hey, that’s a good guess for Andrew. It is thought it comes from “andros” (“man”) - so you might be right. It's interesting to work out where some of these things originate from. "Craig" is quite a common name in Scotland. It is an old Celtic word for a rock and may well be a doublet of &...
by Pazooka
February 5th, 2023, 2:57 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Upon this rock I will build my assembly
Replies: 10
Views: 216

Re: Upon this rock I will build my assembly

Simon (Shimon), James (Yacob), John (Yochanan) are all common Jewish names. There are a number of Simons, Judases (Yehuda), Josephs (Yosef) and Jacobs in the Bible. I argued that Simon of Cyrene was a Jew based on his name: https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=69537 Not sure about Andrew tho...
by Pazooka
February 5th, 2023, 2:13 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Upon this rock I will build my assembly
Replies: 10
Views: 216

Re: Upon this rock I will build my assembly

Simon (Shimon), James (Yacob), John (Yochanan) are all common Jewish names. There are a number of Simons, Judases (Yehuda), Josephs (Yosef) and Jacobs in the Bible. I argued that Simon of Cyrene was a Jew based on his name: https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=69537 Not sure about Andrew tho...
by Pazooka
February 5th, 2023, 1:55 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Upon this rock I will build my assembly
Replies: 10
Views: 216

Upon this rock I will build my assembly

Why does the apostle Peter have a Greek name? He doesn’t. Now the names of the twelve apostles are these: The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother; (ASV, Matthew 10:2) Peter’s original name, according to the Greek text is Simon son...
by Pazooka
February 2nd, 2023, 3:44 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Early Church Fathers believed in the doctrine of becoming Gods.
Replies: 73
Views: 1436

Re: Early Church Fathers believed in the doctrine of becoming Gods.

Psalms 82 is the judgment of angels given power over mankind. They are sons of God. They are the shepherds of the parable of Enoch. They are in contrast to the Good Shepherd, made guardian over the nation of Israel In John 10 Jesus talks about being the Good Shepherd and he goes on to quote Psalms ...
by Pazooka
February 2nd, 2023, 1:53 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Early Church Fathers believed in the doctrine of becoming Gods.
Replies: 73
Views: 1436

Re: Early Church Fathers believed in the doctrine of becoming Gods.

Paul and his family were Jews who held Roman citizenship. Paul was a Pharisee of the tribe of Benjamin who was born in Tarsus but moved to Jerusalem in his younger years.. He must have been familiar with Greco-Roman poetry and he was preaching to the Athenians when he taught of us being the offspri...
by Pazooka
February 1st, 2023, 9:58 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Early Church Fathers believed in the doctrine of becoming Gods.
Replies: 73
Views: 1436

Re: Early Church Fathers believed in the doctrine of becoming Gods.

What does God mean? In what sense of the word are9 we gods? Mini creators? Knowers of good and evil? Spiritual guides? Mini judges? I think we are considered gods in the sense that we are the very offspring of God. In other words gods beget gods. Also in the sense that we, of all the creations of G...
by Pazooka
February 1st, 2023, 12:25 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Judas the Circumciser
Replies: 2
Views: 128

Re: Judas the Circumciser

The texts that we have in the New Testament…appear to be a direct critical response to the Messianic, Torah-orthodox, militant, nationalist rebels who were responsible for the 1st and 2nd Jewish Wars. ~ James Valliant, interview https://youtu.be/k0l8J2vE-3s How much of the history was paganized, po...
by Pazooka
February 1st, 2023, 9:48 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Judas the Circumciser
Replies: 2
Views: 128

Judas the Circumciser

Judas Iscariot (or the Iscariot) has long puzzled etymologists but the appellation most likely refers to the fact that he was zealot or, what was called, a sicarii - which name comes from a type of knife used by these zealots. History has painted them as assassins and “dagger-men.” But it may be tha...
by Pazooka
February 1st, 2023, 8:22 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: There is a sickness in the church
Replies: 92
Views: 3762

Re: There is a sickness in the church

A real shocker, for me, was being at the deathbed of a lifetime member of the church this past Christmas. They had served missions and had served in pretty important and high up callings. When this person drew me near to express gratitude, it was to the church…over and over, saying how much they owe...
by Pazooka
January 31st, 2023, 3:44 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: 'mysterious' spiral appears - signs in the heavens
Replies: 4
Views: 197

Re: 'mysterious' spiral appears - signs in the heavens

Niemand wrote: January 31st, 2023, 3:38 pm Northern Norway had such a phenomenon some years ago. It was put down to Russian missile testing.
I happened while Obama was there in Dec 2009 to accept the Nobel Peace Prize.

Looks like the end of a scroll, unrolling
by Pazooka
January 31st, 2023, 1:40 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Early Church Fathers believed in the doctrine of becoming Gods.
Replies: 73
Views: 1436

Re: Early Church Fathers believed in the doctrine of becoming Gods.

Psalms 82 is the judgment of angels given power over mankind. They are sons of God. They are the shepherds of the parable of Enoch. They are in contrast to the Good Shepherd, made guardian over the nation of Israel In John 10 Jesus talks about being the Good Shepherd and he goes on to quote Psalms 8...
by Pazooka
January 31st, 2023, 12:37 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Early Church Fathers believed in the doctrine of becoming Gods.
Replies: 73
Views: 1436

Re: Early Church Fathers believed in the doctrine of becoming Gods.

Not a law discussion so much as a “ye are gods” discussion.” These are angel princes of nations. I can write a couple words that emotional appeal to me, also. Scriptures with your interpretation, be a good Sadducees. My question is: what are we thinking this verse about the angel princes of the nat...
by Pazooka
January 31st, 2023, 10:49 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Early Church Fathers believed in the doctrine of becoming Gods.
Replies: 73
Views: 1436

Re: Early Church Fathers believed in the doctrine of becoming Gods.

It doesn’t bother anyone that a lot of this discussion is based on Psalms 82:6 which is part of a temple play that acts out the judgement of the gods of the nations, the angelic beings (“shepherds”) which were delegated the governance of the nations? Psalms 81 is saying how the Good Shepherd is ove...
by Pazooka
January 31st, 2023, 10:16 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Early Church Fathers believed in the doctrine of becoming Gods.
Replies: 73
Views: 1436

Re: Early Church Fathers believed in the doctrine of becoming Gods.

It doesn’t bother anyone that a lot of this discussion is based on Psalms 82:6 which is part of a temple play that acts out the judgement of the gods of the nations, the angelic beings (“shepherds”) which were delegated the governance of the nations? Psalms 81 is saying how the Good Shepherd is ove...
by Pazooka
January 31st, 2023, 9:33 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Early Church Fathers believed in the doctrine of becoming Gods.
Replies: 73
Views: 1436

Re: Early Church Fathers believed in the doctrine of becoming Gods.

It doesn’t bother anyone that a lot of this discussion is based on Psalms 82:6 which is part of a temple play that acts out the judgement of the gods of the nations, the angelic beings (“shepherds”) which were delegated the governance of the nations? Psalms 81 is saying how the Good Shepherd is over...
by Pazooka
January 29th, 2023, 5:05 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Paul the False Apostle
Replies: 398
Views: 7661

Re: Paul the False Apostle

Can I sum this up again? Paul is/was not a false apostle. End of story. :D Not really. I'm more supportive of Paul than Pazooka in some respects, but there is a major issue. Does Paul have more of his words in the New Testament than Jesus Christ himself? I've a suspicion he does. Jesus is quoted in...
by Pazooka
January 29th, 2023, 3:09 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Paul the False Apostle
Replies: 398
Views: 7661

Re: Paul the False Apostle

BeNotDeceived wrote: January 29th, 2023, 2:31 pm
BenMcCrea wrote: December 28th, 2022, 2:32 pm The Prophet Joseph described the Apostle Paul and obviously was acquainted with him. He was not a false Apostle.
Could it be Paul was a Bishop. ❓
Yes - of the great and abominable church
by Pazooka
January 29th, 2023, 2:52 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: 2 Maccabees, prayers for the dead and the Nephi controversy
Replies: 17
Views: 311

Re: 2 Maccabees, prayers for the dead and the Nephi controversy

Don’t you think Russell M Nelson is a little like Paul? Besides the beady, hollow eyes there’s is also a major capitulation to the corrupt powers that be. What results is contamination. Maybe, anciently, it was inevitable. But was it ordained? I tend to think not but IDK. Nelson will produce nothin...
by Pazooka
January 29th, 2023, 2:24 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: 2 Maccabees, prayers for the dead and the Nephi controversy
Replies: 17
Views: 311

Re: 2 Maccabees, prayers for the dead and the Nephi controversy

Don’t you think Russell M Nelson is a little like Paul? Besides the beady, hollow eyes there’s is also a major capitulation to the corrupt powers that be. What results is contamination. Maybe, anciently, it was inevitable. But was it ordained? I tend to think not but IDK. Nelson will produce nothin...
by Pazooka
January 29th, 2023, 2:10 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: 2 Maccabees, prayers for the dead and the Nephi controversy
Replies: 17
Views: 311

Re: 2 Maccabees, prayers for the dead and the Nephi controversy

The Jews have apostasised many times and are currently in long term apostasy (two thousand years and counting). The big Christian denominations are now in apostasy for various reasons and are allying with the world. The House of Israel (what gets called by the name “Jews”) is mixed in with the Gent...
by Pazooka
January 29th, 2023, 1:40 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: 2 Maccabees, prayers for the dead and the Nephi controversy
Replies: 17
Views: 311

Re: 2 Maccabees, prayers for the dead and the Nephi controversy

Was it the “hard core”ness of the Pharisees that Jesus had a problem with? Or was it their wickedness and hypocrisy? Some Biblical scholars come to the conclusion that some of the sayings attributed to Jesus are not authentically His but are inserted to pacify the people against the ruling politica...
by Pazooka
January 29th, 2023, 1:21 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: 2 Maccabees, prayers for the dead and the Nephi controversy
Replies: 17
Views: 311

Re: 2 Maccabees, prayers for the dead and the Nephi controversy

Maccabaeus is Aramaic for “the hammer.” Dude’s name was The Hammer - I admit he makes me kind of swoon a little, that Judas. It's a pretty cool story whatever one thinks of some of the theology in this book. And relevant today. * The Jews get attacked/undermine by a hostile pagan force. That force ...