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by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 4:08 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test
Replies: 55
Views: 848

Re: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test

Shawn Henry wrote: December 6th, 2022, 3:55 pm
Luke wrote: December 6th, 2022, 3:34 pm This was my thought, too.
Look at what was preserved on the Brass Plates; Zenos, Zenock, and much more. It is not likely that this law was removed, but it's possible. If Abraham through Joseph had it, it is likely it continued.
He didn't have access to the Brass Plates at that point, though.
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 3:34 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test
Replies: 55
Views: 848

Re: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test

Fair enough. Unless you can demonstrate that the Lord gave the D&C 98 law to Nephi before he slew Laban and not sometime later, perhaps in the case of defending his people against his new Lamanite enemies (Laman, Lemuel, etc) after they separated, then I suggest he did not fail your test. This ...
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 3:00 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 138
Views: 2205

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Why would Jesus say that He would give David more and more wives if He wasn't a supporter of polygamy? Because he gives all according to the desires of their heart, by his own words. No He doesn't--not in the way you're stating. He doesn't actively give a homosexual man a husband. He allows it to h...
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 2:27 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: John Taylor on the question of interpreting D&C 132--eternal marriage or plural marriage necessary?
Replies: 0
Views: 54

John Taylor on the question of interpreting D&C 132--eternal marriage or plural marriage necessary?

“Dear Sister: In regard to the question which you have proposed pertaining to plurality of wives you say: ‘According to my understanding of the revelation, I thought it was sealing, but some say it is plurality.’ Permit me to say that it is both, you will find that the revelation is on The Eternity ...
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 2:20 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 138
Views: 2205

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Then why did that same Jesus Christ give wives to David? Why does he give crack to drug addict? He doesn't. He stands back and allows the drug addict to procure crack via a drug dealer, but He has no hand in the matter. Whereas in the case of David, He was the driving force behind actually giving H...
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 2:02 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 138
Views: 2205

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Shawn Henry wrote: December 6th, 2022, 1:58 pm
Bronco73idi wrote: December 6th, 2022, 12:41 pm what you people report as an abomination
By "you people", you mean Jesus Christ. He called it an abomination. His words, not ours.
Then why did that same Jesus Christ give wives to David?
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 1:26 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 138
Views: 2205

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Polygamy is natural man. In only the last 1000 years have humans in general practiced monogamy as a social norm. The ANIMAL in us wants to spread are genes all over the place and to screw and to have all sorts of sexual partners. That's the natural man. Monogamy is in direct opposition to the ANIMA...
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 1:22 pm
Forum: Heretic Sub-Forum
Topic: Are East Asians a Japhetic people?
Replies: 15
Views: 549

Re: Are East Asians a Japhetic people?

Lorin Woolley said that the Chinese were of Shem. Lorin Woolley clearly didn't know what he was talking about. But then again, why would he? In prophetic terms he was a nobody. In prophetic terms he was more of a prophet than most, if not all, of the people who were living on earth at the time of h...
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 12:46 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: No mention of sealings, baptisms for dead, or endowment in BOM.
Replies: 12
Views: 320

Re: No mention of sealings, baptisms for dead, or endowment in BOM.

3 Nephi 26 6 And now there cannot be written in this book even a hundredth part of the things which Jesus did truly teach unto the people; 7 But behold the plates of Nephi do contain the more part of the things which he taught the people. 8 And these things have I written, which are a lesser part of...
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 6:43 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 138
Views: 2205

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

. . . just because he’s a polygamist. Pretty much sums up every polygamy-related situation ever. Polygamists are hated and cast out and persecuted for doing nothing except live their religion (which should give us a pretty good idea of whether it’s Godly or not—hint: it is). But God is about to per...
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 6:42 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 138
Views: 2205

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

. . . just because he’s a polygamist. Pretty much sums up every polygamy-related situation ever. Polygamists are hated and cast out and persecuted for doing nothing except live their religion (which should give us a pretty good idea of whether it’s Godly or not—hint: it is). But God is about to per...
by Luke
December 5th, 2022, 7:11 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 138
Views: 2205

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

. . . just because he’s a polygamist. Pretty much sums up every polygamy-related situation ever. Polygamists are hated and cast out and persecuted for doing nothing except live their religion (which should give us a pretty good idea of whether it’s Godly or not—hint: it is). But God is about to per...
by Luke
December 5th, 2022, 7:06 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 138
Views: 2205

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Follow_God_Not_Man wrote: December 5th, 2022, 11:22 am The dynastic sealings that Joseph was doing were never about sex.
This whole “dynastic sealings” business does make me chuckle. This concept stems from an article written about 15-20 years ago, and has absolutely no evidence behind it whatsoever.
by Luke
December 5th, 2022, 7:02 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 138
Views: 2205

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Do you not believe in the Bible either? The Bible never authorizes Polygamy I do love pulling this one out whenever people make such outrageous and uneducated claims such as that: 2 Samuel 12 8 And I gave thee thy master’s house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Isr...
by Luke
December 5th, 2022, 7:00 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 138
Views: 2205

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Reluctant Watchman wrote: December 5th, 2022, 5:58 pm Modern polygamy is an abomination.
It’s not, otherwise God would be a changing God. Things aren’t abominable one day, and then not abominable the next.
by Luke
December 5th, 2022, 6:59 pm
Forum: Heretic Sub-Forum
Topic: Are East Asians a Japhetic people?
Replies: 15
Views: 549

Re: Are East Asians a Japhetic people?

Lorin Woolley said that the Chinese were of Shem.
by Luke
December 5th, 2022, 6:38 pm
Forum: Heretic Sub-Forum
Topic: Subtle change to the Law of Consecration covenant in the temple
Replies: 11
Views: 872

Re: Subtle change to the Law of Consecration covenant in the temple

The wording used to be “to consecrate all to the upbuilding of the kingdom of God”.

Now it’s “to consecrate all to the LDS Church for the upbuilding of the kingdom of God”.
by Luke
December 5th, 2022, 6:20 am
Forum: News
Topic: Sexual fetish choir singing at LDS temple
Replies: 48
Views: 1682

Re: Sexual fetish choir singing at LDS temple

This is sickening
by Luke
December 4th, 2022, 3:00 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: World cup
Replies: 68
Views: 1482

Re: World cup

nightlight wrote: December 4th, 2022, 2:43 pm
Robin Hood wrote: December 4th, 2022, 2:41 pm England 3-0 Senegal

England play France in the quarter-final on Saturday.
I hope you guys win the tournament
You’re on the right side of history my mate 😉
by Luke
December 4th, 2022, 2:59 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 138
Views: 2205

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Here we go….
by Luke
December 4th, 2022, 5:19 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: A Global Faith and Working on the Railroad - Unraveling One of the Most Interesting Threads To Appear On LDSFF
Replies: 266
Views: 7039

Re: A Global Faith and Working on the Railroad - Unraveling One of the Most Interesting Threads To Appear On LDSFF

This is getting very interesting. I remember abijah saying that LDS Freedom Forum is the cutting edge of Mormon theology and philosophy, and I believe it’s probably the cutting edge of Mormon history as well. The amount of mind-blowing stuff uncovered on this site is unreal.
by Luke
December 2nd, 2022, 6:22 pm
Forum: Secret Combinations (Conspiracy)
Topic: New Ten Commandments
Replies: 28
Views: 889

Re: New Ten Commandments

nightlight wrote: December 2nd, 2022, 4:25 pm
Subcomandante wrote: December 2nd, 2022, 3:57 pm It appears that Elder Bednar was a participant at this conference.
Source?
I read from some sort of “official” news outlet that he was on the guest list.
by Luke
December 2nd, 2022, 6:20 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: King Noah sounds like Brigham Young
Replies: 91
Views: 2697

Re: King Noah sounds like Brigham Young

Oh he taught it. So did Jesus. It IS what they and all sent messengers teach. Few merely understand and most don’t. I didn’t begin to understand until I was 40 years old, despite a lifetime of church service and study. You can be baptized, have hands laid on your head, and do temple ordinances 1000...
by Luke
December 2nd, 2022, 6:17 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: A Global Faith and Working on the Railroad - Unraveling One of the Most Interesting Threads To Appear On LDSFF
Replies: 266
Views: 7039

Re: A Global Faith and Working on the Railroad - Unraveling One of the Most Interesting Threads To Appear On LDSFF

This seems to be the origin of this particular blogger's beef with the church: '"June 2016 I began writing this blog. I had been targeted 4 decades by the local drug-trafficking Illinois Democrats. I knew one Mormon was in bed with them, who had Bait & Switched me into about 10 real-estate...
by Luke
December 2nd, 2022, 6:16 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: A Global Faith and Working on the Railroad - Unraveling One of the Most Interesting Threads To Appear On LDSFF
Replies: 266
Views: 7039

Re: A Global Faith and Working on the Railroad - Unraveling One of the Most Interesting Threads To Appear On LDSFF

I had a second to do a bit of research. I AM NOT VOUCHING FOR THIS SOURCE. I am simply placing this here because the author seems to point more explicitly towards things AGF hinted at. Maximum discernment needed with this kind of site, though, so READER BEWARE! https://rockfordfraud.wordpress.com/2...