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by Luke
December 9th, 2022, 4:29 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: What is the doctrine of Christ and the fulness of the gospel?
Replies: 3
Views: 113

Re: What is the doctrine of Christ and the fulness of the gospel?

Two different things I believe. In 1842 Joseph Smith said that the Fullness of the Gospel wasn’t complete. Trying to identify it with the Doctrine of Christ contradicts Joseph imo (though the Doctrine of Christ is, of course, a part). Obviously everyone is at liberty to form their own conclusions a...
by Luke
December 9th, 2022, 1:52 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: What is the doctrine of Christ and the fulness of the gospel?
Replies: 3
Views: 113

Re: What is the doctrine of Christ and the fulness of the gospel?

Two different things I believe. In 1842 Joseph Smith said that the Fullness of the Gospel wasn’t complete. Trying to identify it with the Doctrine of Christ contradicts Joseph imo (though the Doctrine of Christ is, of course, a part). Obviously everyone is at liberty to form their own conclusions as...
by Luke
December 9th, 2022, 8:07 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Letter to the leaders of the Church! What say you?????
Replies: 51
Views: 1323

Re: Letter to the leaders of the Church! What say you?????

The Red Pill wrote: December 9th, 2022, 7:46 am The Church went into FULL BLOWN apostasy with Brigham Young. Any president of the church that practiced polygamy after BY was not listening to God in any way.
Just not true. John Taylor, Lorenzo Snow, George Q. Cannon and other polygamists met and talked with the Saviour. Just like Abraham.
by Luke
December 8th, 2022, 4:34 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: A Global Faith and Working on the Railroad - Unraveling One of the Most Interesting Threads To Appear On LDSFF
Replies: 290
Views: 7900

Re: A Global Faith and Working on the Railroad - Unraveling One of the Most Interesting Threads To Appear On LDSFF

Life is interesting. I'd like to share with y'all what just happened to me. I have a couple I've ministered to for the last seven and a half years. Older couple, nice as can be. A few months ago she fell and broke her neck. He's worn himself out trying to care for her and is now in a wheelchair him...
by Luke
December 7th, 2022, 4:40 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: John Taylor on the question of interpreting D&C 132--eternal marriage or plural marriage necessary?
Replies: 5
Views: 203

Re: John Taylor on the question of interpreting D&C 132--eternal marriage or plural marriage necessary?

Joseph Smith's death: 1844 D&C 132 pulled out of BY's desk drawer: 1852 D&C 101 until removed in 1876: "All legal contracts of marriage made before a person is baptized into this church, should be held sacred and fulfilled. Inasmuch as this church of Christ has been reproached with the...
by Luke
December 7th, 2022, 1:57 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Respect for Pedophilia and Polygamy Act???
Replies: 21
Views: 810

Re: The Respect for Pedophilia and Polygamy Act???

If the Respect for Marriage Act passes, it will legally make all states accept the marriages of any one state. What are the ramifications of this? Well, here are at least two. First, any state could lower their age of marriage to say, 10 years old. Second, any state could have marriages include mul...
by Luke
December 7th, 2022, 8:53 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: No mention of sealings, baptisms for dead, or endowment in BOM.
Replies: 23
Views: 644

Re: No mention of sealings, baptisms for dead, or endowment in BOM.

I have found that a more complete teaching of these precepts is true. The BoM is a wonderful book, but it does not contain all doctrine. The LDS church has some/much truth. Much has become corrupted. It sorrows my heart to find people who throw out truth because of the blatant corruption among men....
by Luke
December 7th, 2022, 8:47 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Respect for Pedophilia and Polygamy Act???
Replies: 21
Views: 810

Re: The Respect for Pedophilia and Polygamy Act???

I’ll go for the Respect for Polygamy Act. Although I don’t think it’s good to mingle marriage sealings with the government as the Church has done.
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 4:08 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test
Replies: 98
Views: 1707

Re: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test

Shawn Henry wrote: December 6th, 2022, 3:55 pm
Luke wrote: December 6th, 2022, 3:34 pm This was my thought, too.
Look at what was preserved on the Brass Plates; Zenos, Zenock, and much more. It is not likely that this law was removed, but it's possible. If Abraham through Joseph had it, it is likely it continued.
He didn't have access to the Brass Plates at that point, though.
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 3:34 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test
Replies: 98
Views: 1707

Re: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test

Fair enough. Unless you can demonstrate that the Lord gave the D&C 98 law to Nephi before he slew Laban and not sometime later, perhaps in the case of defending his people against his new Lamanite enemies (Laman, Lemuel, etc) after they separated, then I suggest he did not fail your test. This ...
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 3:00 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 149
Views: 2555

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Why would Jesus say that He would give David more and more wives if He wasn't a supporter of polygamy? Because he gives all according to the desires of their heart, by his own words. No He doesn't--not in the way you're stating. He doesn't actively give a homosexual man a husband. He allows it to h...
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 2:27 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: John Taylor on the question of interpreting D&C 132--eternal marriage or plural marriage necessary?
Replies: 5
Views: 203

John Taylor on the question of interpreting D&C 132--eternal marriage or plural marriage necessary?

“Dear Sister: In regard to the question which you have proposed pertaining to plurality of wives you say: ‘According to my understanding of the revelation, I thought it was sealing, but some say it is plurality.’ Permit me to say that it is both, you will find that the revelation is on The Eternity ...
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 2:20 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 149
Views: 2555

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Then why did that same Jesus Christ give wives to David? Why does he give crack to drug addict? He doesn't. He stands back and allows the drug addict to procure crack via a drug dealer, but He has no hand in the matter. Whereas in the case of David, He was the driving force behind actually giving H...
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 2:02 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 149
Views: 2555

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Shawn Henry wrote: December 6th, 2022, 1:58 pm
Bronco73idi wrote: December 6th, 2022, 12:41 pm what you people report as an abomination
By "you people", you mean Jesus Christ. He called it an abomination. His words, not ours.
Then why did that same Jesus Christ give wives to David?
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 1:26 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 149
Views: 2555

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Polygamy is natural man. In only the last 1000 years have humans in general practiced monogamy as a social norm. The ANIMAL in us wants to spread are genes all over the place and to screw and to have all sorts of sexual partners. That's the natural man. Monogamy is in direct opposition to the ANIMA...
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 1:22 pm
Forum: Heretic Sub-Forum
Topic: Are East Asians a Japhetic people?
Replies: 15
Views: 576

Re: Are East Asians a Japhetic people?

Lorin Woolley said that the Chinese were of Shem. Lorin Woolley clearly didn't know what he was talking about. But then again, why would he? In prophetic terms he was a nobody. In prophetic terms he was more of a prophet than most, if not all, of the people who were living on earth at the time of h...
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 12:46 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: No mention of sealings, baptisms for dead, or endowment in BOM.
Replies: 23
Views: 644

Re: No mention of sealings, baptisms for dead, or endowment in BOM.

3 Nephi 26 6 And now there cannot be written in this book even a hundredth part of the things which Jesus did truly teach unto the people; 7 But behold the plates of Nephi do contain the more part of the things which he taught the people. 8 And these things have I written, which are a lesser part of...
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 6:43 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 149
Views: 2555

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

. . . just because he’s a polygamist. Pretty much sums up every polygamy-related situation ever. Polygamists are hated and cast out and persecuted for doing nothing except live their religion (which should give us a pretty good idea of whether it’s Godly or not—hint: it is). But God is about to per...
by Luke
December 6th, 2022, 6:42 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 149
Views: 2555

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

. . . just because he’s a polygamist. Pretty much sums up every polygamy-related situation ever. Polygamists are hated and cast out and persecuted for doing nothing except live their religion (which should give us a pretty good idea of whether it’s Godly or not—hint: it is). But God is about to per...
by Luke
December 5th, 2022, 7:11 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 149
Views: 2555

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

. . . just because he’s a polygamist. Pretty much sums up every polygamy-related situation ever. Polygamists are hated and cast out and persecuted for doing nothing except live their religion (which should give us a pretty good idea of whether it’s Godly or not—hint: it is). But God is about to per...
by Luke
December 5th, 2022, 7:06 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 149
Views: 2555

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Follow_God_Not_Man wrote: December 5th, 2022, 11:22 am The dynastic sealings that Joseph was doing were never about sex.
This whole “dynastic sealings” business does make me chuckle. This concept stems from an article written about 15-20 years ago, and has absolutely no evidence behind it whatsoever.
by Luke
December 5th, 2022, 7:02 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 149
Views: 2555

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Do you not believe in the Bible either? The Bible never authorizes Polygamy I do love pulling this one out whenever people make such outrageous and uneducated claims such as that: 2 Samuel 12 8 And I gave thee thy master’s house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Isr...
by Luke
December 5th, 2022, 7:00 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 149
Views: 2555

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Reluctant Watchman wrote: December 5th, 2022, 5:58 pm Modern polygamy is an abomination.
It’s not, otherwise God would be a changing God. Things aren’t abominable one day, and then not abominable the next.
by Luke
December 5th, 2022, 6:59 pm
Forum: Heretic Sub-Forum
Topic: Are East Asians a Japhetic people?
Replies: 15
Views: 576

Re: Are East Asians a Japhetic people?

Lorin Woolley said that the Chinese were of Shem.