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by Shawn Henry
December 7th, 2022, 3:07 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Respect for Pedophilia and Polygamy Act???
Replies: 0
Views: 15

The Respect for Pedophilia and Polygamy Act???

If the Respect for Marriage Act passes, it will legally make all states accept the marriages of any one state. What are the ramifications of this? Well, here are at least two. First, any state could lower their age of marriage to say, 10 years old. Second, any state could have marriages include mult...
by Shawn Henry
December 7th, 2022, 2:58 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 139
Views: 2218

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

You do realize that Jacob’s words do not call out Abraham for committing an abomination. Did he have 1 wife and 2 concubines or 2 separate wives and 1 concubine. His words called out David and his son Solomon Whose words?!! Did you just type "Jacob's words"? Jacob's words are not in chapt...
by Shawn Henry
December 7th, 2022, 2:48 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Flat Earth
Replies: 230
Views: 4461

Re: Flat Earth

Me early earth encased in an outer shell of water solves the "water above the firmament" problem. Please quote the scriptures about water beyond the stars or whatever point you were making. So, this whole time you haven't bothered to read it? Nice! In all 3 accounts, the sun, moon, and st...
by Shawn Henry
December 7th, 2022, 2:45 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Flat Earth
Replies: 230
Views: 4461

Re: Flat Earth

But I take it the other direction, kind of the way Isaiah says to do: a person who claims to be a prophet makes a statement. If that statement is verifiable, then verify it. If it's false, then obviously the so-called prophet is wrong. I'm not going to stand on my head and cross my eyes for the res...
by Shawn Henry
December 7th, 2022, 2:40 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Flat Earth
Replies: 230
Views: 4461

Re: Flat Earth

h_p wrote: December 6th, 2022, 4:36 pm For what it's worth, I don't see any water above the big dipper, and you don't either.
For all I know, that's the very reason the sky is blue. Occam's Razor would say, yeah, that's water.
by Shawn Henry
December 7th, 2022, 2:31 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test
Replies: 58
Views: 890

Re: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test

I have to disagree pretty strongly with the premise of this post. Nephi certainly did not have enmity toward Laban and did not want to kill him. He was commanded to by the Lord in order to accomplish a divine purpose which had nothing to do with Laban 'offending' Nephi. Can you cite evidence that N...
by Shawn Henry
December 7th, 2022, 2:19 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test
Replies: 58
Views: 890

Re: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test

It wasn't about Nephi vs Laban and Nephi needing to forgive thrice, it was about what the Lord wanted. And who knows what number of offenses Laban had racked up towards God and Laban's neighbors? No doubt he deserved it, but why did the Lord single Nephi out in section 98? What was he trying to tel...
by Shawn Henry
December 7th, 2022, 2:17 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test
Replies: 58
Views: 890

Re: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test

sushi_chef wrote: December 6th, 2022, 4:21 pm "11 But Alma said unto him: The Spirit constraineth me that I must not stretch forth mine hand; for behold the Lord receiveth them up unto himself, in glory; ..
" alma 14

the same spirit.
That's a good point, Alma uses the same language. I hope it's the same spirit.
by Shawn Henry
December 7th, 2022, 1:57 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test
Replies: 58
Views: 890

Re: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test

He didn't have access to the Brass Plates at that point, though. Correct, but that was what the Southern Kingdom was likely using, what scribes made copies from, unless we suspect they hid the records and preached something else entirely. That is possible, but if it was passed down from Abraham to ...
by Shawn Henry
December 6th, 2022, 3:59 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test
Replies: 58
Views: 890

Re: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test

Remember that the Israelite covenant was "an eye for an eye" and it is obvious that section 98 is a higher law. Nephi was an Israelite living in a time before Christ. Mike Yes, but the Lord is telling us in 98 that he gave Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, and Nephi this law specific law, so...
by Shawn Henry
December 6th, 2022, 3:55 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test
Replies: 58
Views: 890

Re: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test

Luke wrote: December 6th, 2022, 3:34 pm This was my thought, too.
Look at what was preserved on the Brass Plates; Zenos, Zenock, and much more. It is not likely that this law was removed, but it's possible. If Abraham through Joseph had it, it is likely it continued.
by Shawn Henry
December 6th, 2022, 3:52 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test
Replies: 58
Views: 890

Re: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test

The killing of Laban was one of those things that always bothered me until I realized that the Israelites were a covenant society and that the death penalty was prescribed for certain offences. In this case I believe that the one chosen to administer the penalty for a capital offence was Nephi. Som...
by Shawn Henry
December 6th, 2022, 3:50 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test
Replies: 58
Views: 890

Re: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test

Fair enough. Unless you can demonstrate that the Lord gave the D&C 98 law to Nephi before he slew Laban and not sometime later, perhaps in the case of defending his people against his new Lamanite enemies (Laman, Lemuel, etc) after they separated, then I suggest he did not fail your test. The t...
by Shawn Henry
December 6th, 2022, 3:41 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: 2 Restorations? Yes (not 1 or 3)
Replies: 116
Views: 3168

Re: 2 Restorations? Yes (not 1 or 3)

marc wrote: November 16th, 2022, 4:01 pm Oh! I missed the link. Thanks for bringing it up again. It looks fascinating. Looking forward to watching the whole thing.
Still looking forward to watching? Minute 1:12 to about 1:26 is all. I promise, you'll like it!
by Shawn Henry
December 6th, 2022, 3:25 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 139
Views: 2218

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

BuriedTartaria wrote: December 6th, 2022, 2:53 pm Interesting perspective.
Not interesting enough to merit feedback though, apparently. Help a man out, show me where my analysis needs improvement. :D
by Shawn Henry
December 6th, 2022, 3:21 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test
Replies: 58
Views: 890

Re: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test

As the custodian of the plates, Laban should have known better. He had no excuse. True, as are your other points. They are just not on topic. Could you read section 98 and give me your reasoning why Nephi was singled out and whether that section matches what he did. Until we figure why the Lord fir...
by Shawn Henry
December 6th, 2022, 3:06 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 139
Views: 2218

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Reluctant Watchman wrote: December 6th, 2022, 3:01 pm All I know is that YOU are special, and that's what matters most.
I smiled and my heart warmed, but then I thought, "Oh wait, I hope he doesn't mean yellow bus special".
by Shawn Henry
December 6th, 2022, 3:03 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Flat Earth
Replies: 230
Views: 4461

Re: Flat Earth

Please don't put words in my mouth. I am and will always be an ardent supporter of Joseph Smith. I don't believe the ridiculous church history depiction of him. God chose him, out of billions, for the restoration. There are reasons for that. My belief in a current spherical earth has nothing to do ...
by Shawn Henry
December 6th, 2022, 2:58 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 139
Views: 2218

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Luke wrote: December 6th, 2022, 2:20 pm Why would Jesus say that He would give David more and more wives if He wasn't a supporter of polygamy?
Because he gives all according to the desires of their heart, by his own words.
by Shawn Henry
December 6th, 2022, 2:53 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 139
Views: 2218

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Bronco73idi wrote: December 6th, 2022, 2:14 pm He called concubines an abomination. His words not mine
You're smoking something brother.

If he were condemning concubines, it would read "their having concubines", but it reads specifically "their having many wives and concubines".
by Shawn Henry
December 6th, 2022, 2:50 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 139
Views: 2218

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Oh, and for an example, Nephi murdering Laban. Study section 98 and ask yourself why the Lord singles out Nephi when talking about when you are justified and tell if Nephi didn't already have a standing commandment that he violated. Here, I made a whole thread just for you. https://ldsfreedomforum....
by Shawn Henry
December 6th, 2022, 2:48 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test
Replies: 58
Views: 890

Nephi failed the 1 Nephi 3:7 test

In Section 98 the Lord gives us his standard for when we are justified in going against our enemies and how many times the Law requires us to forgive. He then singles out Nephi among our forefathers. "Behold, this is the law I gave unto my servant Nephi, and thy fathers, Joseph, and Jacob, and ...
by Shawn Henry
December 6th, 2022, 2:13 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 139
Views: 2218

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Then why did that same Jesus Christ give wives to David? Why does he give crack to drug addict? He gives us according to the desires of our heart. He gives everything and takes ownership of everything. It all comes from God. Just because he gives us the agency to sin, doesn't mean that he condones ...
by Shawn Henry
December 6th, 2022, 2:04 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Flat Earth
Replies: 230
Views: 4461

Re: Flat Earth

Maybe it was exactly what you describe at creation, but it isn't now. The Bible is quite clear that the waters are still above the firmament. It was that way after the flood and before the flood. The gates of the heavens above opening and pouring down the waters from above is the very cause of the ...
by Shawn Henry
December 6th, 2022, 1:58 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polygamous Prophet Arrested
Replies: 139
Views: 2218

Re: Polygamous Prophet Arrested

Bronco73idi wrote: December 6th, 2022, 12:41 pm what you people report as an abomination
By "you people", you mean Jesus Christ. He called it an abomination. His words, not ours.