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 Post subject: Fiat currency, now... a fiat government!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:40 pm 
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Fiat Government By Presidential Proclamation
Jim Kirwan
9-25-08

Democracy is a time-consuming affair because the governed need to be involved in every major decision; this was designed to take place in open hearings throughout the congress, with input being filtered from the pubic through their 'representatives. Not any longer! Since we became a fascist police state, all of that has become passé.

Apparently all that is needed is for the Dictator to give a televised lecture, followed by immediate action from the congress that is totally out-of-sync with the population-then everybody in Washington gets to go home and campaign to get re-elected to the same do-nothing jobs all over again!

What happened to holding open hearings, the presentation of the "facts" behind the supposed "needs"! Listening to our resident alcoholic leader, even though he appeared to be semi-sober tonight; hardly constitutes proof of anything as the man is a congenital liar, a proven international criminal and perhaps the single most disastrous president the Republic has ever had.

The point being: just because Bush says something does not mean that there is any truth whatever to his statements-he's lied too many times about everything he's gone to the microphones for. Have we no collective memory at all! This is not a national TV game show where a topic can be trotted out, without national discussions, and then "voted on" within 24 to 48 hours, before we leap to the next crisis! Is this a nation with depth or a circus that's trying to run a side-show on television.

The ramifications of this potential crime that we're watching unfold on television is just too great to by-pass the congressional requirement for sober and intelligent partisan debate: partisan because ostensibly not everyone in the country agrees with our very own idiot leader: hence there ought to be discussions as to the veracity of his view!


"Bi-partisanship (everyone in government's favorite term of late) is government-speak for one-party rule, because it cannot symbolize anything else. What by-partisanship stands for is the death of a true democracy and the end of the Republic-it has nothing to do with coming to the best decision on any topic that is treated to this misconstrued concept of governance!

The list of government miscalculations and outright colossal failures should have automatically disqualified anyone from the sitting administration, or the congress; and especially the heads of the SEC, the Treasury, or the FED to speak on behalf of "what should be done to fix this problem," if there is indeed an urgent crisis: as this has not yet been proven.
So what's the rush all about, could it be tomorrow's demonstrations on Wall Street, complete with pitchforks and torches: "There is no central group organizing this event. But as the call to action that began circulating Monday afternoon noted, "Do whatever you can ­ make and distribute your own flyers, contact all your groups and friends. This crime is without precedence and we can't be silent! What's the point of waiting for someone else to organize a protest two months from now, long after the crime has been perpetrated?"

ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THURSDAY'S PROTEST

When: 4pm Thursday, September 25!
Where: Southern end of Bowling Green Park, in the plaza area
What to bring: Banners, noisemakers, signs, leaflets, etc.
Why: To say we won't pay for the Wall Street bailout." (1)


There is so much more about all of this that the public is not being told, and so much more that will radically alter everything else in our lives: We cannot afford to trust the congress, the courts or the administration to level with us on this one: because this is a FUNDAMENTAL change in the way everything is done by government, to the people they are supposed to be protecting.

There is a huge amount of history here that is being ignored: these knuckle-draggers have been "in-charge totally" for the last nearly eight years, and they broken virtually everything in our way of life: they've desecrated the constitution suspended the entire Bill of Rights, spied upon us since seven months before 911, declared two unilateral and illegal wars, bankrupted the nation and passed their debts down to at least the next five generations!

"The U.S. government has been turned into an engine that accelerates the wealth upwards into the hands of a few. The Wall Street bailout, the Iraq War, military spending, tax cuts to the rich, and a for-profit health care system are all about the acceleration of wealth upwards. And now, the American people are about to pay the price of the collapse of the $513 trillion Ponzi scheme of derivatives. Yes, that's half a quadrillion dollars." (2)

What does it take for Americans to finally say: "Hell No I'm not going to take this anymore!" Where's the anger, where's the outrage: these inhuman incompetent politicians blindsided the nation with this bogus ploy to steal the way profits and losses are divided, along with any remaining semblance of integrity at any level of this thoroughly corrupted criminal-enterprise that masquerades as what used to be the government of the United States of America.

Do you not know a con-game when you see one; are you so brain-dead that you have forgotten that the only people to blame for all of this are the same people that are demanding that you give them everything else they now say they "must have immediately!" These people are not professionals, they're criminals-all of them- can you not see that! You sit there night after night and passively swallow their brand of Kool-aid, as though it was the only drink in the world: WHY!

These are the same people that lied to you about Weapons of Mass Destruction, about 911, about spying on us all: they have also lied about the costs of everything they've undertaken to 'accomplish,' and we let them get away with it.

The USA P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act was rushed through, just like this nightmare, and look what that piece of trash has wrought: have YOU read it! That gives the government the right to empty your bank account without any proof of any wrong-doing on your behalf. And if that wasn't enough they then added Patriot Act II, neither was read by the criminals in congress, they just did as they were told and passed it; in terror no doubt of what the Dictator was saying might be true. Cowards have no place in government, and this most recent crop of cowards is not willing to protect the public any more than were the previous cowards that have consistently failed us all, miserably!

A people no longer willing to stand up for themselves has no business calling themselves either free or independent, because the truth is they are cowards that deserve neither the freedom they say they seek, nor the security they obviously believe their silence will buy them! Burn up the phone lines and do something visible this time, because you're running out of time alright: but it doesn't have to do with revamping the rules of finance; rather this is about whether or not you will have a future at all.

Remember the Income tax, that too was supposed to be "temporary," just like this 'adjustment is supposed to be ended within a very short time.' If you believe that then you deserve these creatures! Just look at McCain and his most recent dodge to avoid a debate: "Too important to hold a debate," well if it's that important why didn't he or Obama leave the senate, and take their chances before deciding to run for president? If ever there was a NEED for a debate then it ought to be now: ON THIS TOPIC! Yet both these half-baked fools have decided to "do what's best for the country" (translation: capitulate to the direct orders of the Dictator and his owners), and get this "deal" wrapped up quickly- so that the money begins to flow unimpeded back into the overstuffed pockets of all their favorite sponsors!

None of those "in-charge" gives a damn about ordinary Americans, except to force us to pay for all of their totally obscene mistakes: that's all you and I are good for-to bail them out- even if it bankrupts us all!

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 Post subject: Re: Fiat currency, now... a fiat government!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:22 pm 
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[b]The list of government miscalculations and outright colossal failures [b]There is a huge amount of history here that is being ignored: these knuckle-draggers have been "in-charge totally" for the last nearly eight years,


Thanks Col. , This is a very good commentary on how we should all feel about America and what is going on in our lives. The only thing I don't agree with is that he basically calls the people responsible for this mess incompetent knuckle-draggers. This is far from the truth.

We founded this country mostly to get away from King George because he was forcing all his subjects to stop using their local monetary systems and into his debt based monetary system. When we finally "won" our "freedom" in the revolutionary war and became a country we still did not get rid of the King and his banking system hence we have never really gotten away from paying the King his slice of the pie. Since the late 1700's there has always been a very deliberate, intelligent and very well planned out undertaking to take this country down the path of least resistance to its demise and back into the total control of the PTB. So when I hear people say that our government is full of incompetent's and that these people are responsible for the state we are in I have to laugh. These people know exactly what they are doing and have known for at least 8 generations how America was going to be brought back into the fold for good. Make no mistake about it, Satan is at the head, the deceit, lies, murders and every financial move has been planned out the same way an engineer develops plans for a new project. Nothing is left to chance, including making everyone think a bunch of incompetents are leading this country, what a joke. They are also responsible for developing the apathetic and dumbed down attitudes that pervade many Americans brains. They know what most people will do in any situation. They are in almost total control now.

The only thing stopping them from total destruction is Christ himself, and thank goodness he is still in charge. But not for long.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:00 am 
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Yes that was a good read.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:05 am 
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LittleLion wrote:
We founded this country mostly to get away from King George because he was forcing all his subjects to stop using their local monetary systems and into his debt based monetary system. When we finally "won" our "freedom" in the revolutionary war and became a country we still did not get rid of the King and his banking system hence we have never really gotten away from paying the King his slice of the pie.


Local control of wealth is what we need to get back to, instead of money of the realm.

What King George III did was to support the policies of the Bank of England's owners that were using the Crown and the British people as an empire building engine, the colonists said that these empire builders were trampling upon their Saxon Liberties of the Gospel.

We need to do this all over again and tell our President that we will no longer accept the policies of the Federal Reserve Bank controlling our country on behalf of the Banks owners.

Once again Government is trampling upon our Ancestral Saxon Liberties of the Gospel.

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Whereas we all came into these parts of America with one and the same end and aim, namely, to advance the Kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ and to enjoy the liberties of the Gospel in purity with peace; (The Articles of Confederation of the United Colonies of New England; May 19, 1643)


LittleLion wrote:
Since the late 1700's there has always been a very deliberate, intelligent and very well planned out undertaking to take this country down the path of least resistance to its demise and back into the total control of the PTB.


That very deliberate, intelligent and very well planned out undertaking for the demise of God's children began much before the 1700's. For the sake of New England Colonists the beginnings of that plan was with the creation of the Bank of England in in 1694. That diabolical plan was based on the top-down controls that started in Babylon and lived on through the Greeks, and as the Pharisee developed empires of Parthia, Ottoman, Rome and the Nation States of today, based on Top-down Governments, Central Banking and Political Orthodoxy.

LittleLion wrote:
So, when I hear people say that our government is full of incompetent's and that these people are responsible for the state we are in I have to laugh. These people know exactly what they are doing and have known for at least 8 generations how America was going to be brought back into the fold for good.


Yes, the grand plan to remove the true and living God from people’s lives and replace that with the oligarchy from Satan, to get us to rely on the “arm of flesh.”

LittleLion wrote:
Make no mistake about it, Satan is at the head, the deceit, lies, murders and every financial move has been planned out the same way an engineer develops plans for a new project. Nothing is left to chance, including making everyone think a bunch of incompetents are leading this country, what a joke. They are also responsible for developing the apathetic and dumbed down attitudes that pervade many Americans brains. They know what most people will do in any situation. They are in almost total control now.

The only thing stopping them from total destruction is Christ himself, and thank goodness he is still in charge. But not for long.


Thank you for your thoughts LittleLion.

God Bless,
Darren

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Hey, Everybody, it’s ME, your Great Friend, Satan, that is talking to you.


I need to tell you about those dirty, filthy Murderers who have murdered their way to control over you, who have murdered their way to control your Land and now rule it as your (Ancient Roman) “Sovereign,” your (Ancient Greek) “Monarch,” etc.

Now, as all of you know, the Earth is flat and doesn’t move. However, as all of us can see, the Sky “spins” around the Earth, constantly, every day and night. As you look to the Southern Heavens you see that every single Star rises in the east and sets in the west, just like the Sun and the Moon do.

So, all existence out there, the entire Heavens, are united, in one great “One-spin,” spinning around your heads, every day and night. Along with the Ancient Greek Conquerors, about the dirtiest, little, dark and loathsome people, whom they controlled, were the Romans, who operated with the Ancient Greeks’ Navy, that controlled the sea-trade of the north shore of the Mediterranean Sea. The way that the Romans said, “one,” was, “uni”; and the way that they said, “spin,” was, “verse.” So, the Romans called these Greek Controllers’ “one-spin,” the “Universe.”

Now, these Ancient Greek Conquerors were able to instruct all whom they either conquered or controlled, “What do you think that it is that make the One-spin spin?” They were able to tell all of these either conquered or controlled populations that the Power, which they knew, that makes the Sky spin around the Earth every day and night, is that there is an Ancient, Primitive, Pagan, Brainless, Bodyless Fool of a Greek “Theos” ― ME ― who is making the Sky spin around the Earth every day and night, to make it into the extremely stupid Human Race’s “One-spin” or “Universe.”

But now the biggy.

They asked everybody and anybody if they knew what the SOLE Connection is between, their Ancient, Primitive, Pagan, Brainless, Bodyless Fool of a Greek Theos ― ME ― who makes the Sky spin around the Earth every day and night, to be the “One-spin” ― and mankind, living on their flat, unmoving Earth.

None of their conquerees knew, so their Conquerors told them.

Those Conquerors showed their conquerees that the Only Connection between ME and Man, on the Earth, was those Ancient Greeks’ “one-spin-al” man, their Head Conqueror.

They “PROVED” to all of their conquerees that the only connection between ME and all of Mankind, on the Earth, are the CORRECT HUNCHES that I give to their Head Conqueror, alone, their “One-spin-al Man” [of course their Ancient, Pagan Greek word, that they invented, at that time, to tell it to all of their conquerees, for the idea ― “one-spin-al” ― was their Ancient, Primitive, Pagan Greek expression: “catholic”].

They proved to all of Mankind, thereafter, that the Only Connection between ME, SATAN, and all of Mankind are the “Correct Hunches” [“Ortho-doxy” in Ancient, Primitive, Pagan Greek] that I give, through the Ancient, Primitive, Pagan Greeks’ One-spinal Conqueror (and his Followers), to all of Mankind, that he or they conquer.


And then

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LAW


LAW ― From its beginning LAW is the name of the relationship between an Individual and The Living Resurrected God of Israel.

The Relationship carries with it the obligation of respect for all other Individuals, that they too may wish to re-enter into that Relationship with The Living God of Israel that all Individuals are born in. That is, they too may wish to be Reborn (historically to become “FREE”) into that Relationship into which all Individuals are born, in relation to The Living God of Israel, wherein He teaches all of them. Among other things He teaches all of them their Native Language during their early years of life.


STATECRAFT ― Statecraft, the “Kybernion” (Governments), on the other hand, is founded on the relationship of a specific individual to Satan. That relationship carries with it the obligation of contempt for all others. That Contempt includes the punishment of the Death Sentence upon all who do not acknowledge the superiority of the specific individual who has the personal communication with Satan.

This Satanic approach, producing an organization that is organized “from the top down,” allowed the Employees of the Administration of the Roman Empire’s Economy (which, after the Defeat of the Roman Empire’s Infantry Army, began operating under the name of, “the Roman One-Spin-ic Assembly,” the Roman One-spin-ic Assembly that continued seeing to the Administration of the Gold Coin Money Economy of the Roman One-spin-ic Emperors, who, from Constantinople, had begun identifying themselves, on those coins, as the “GODS” of those using their Coins, because of their “ONE-SPIN-IC” relationship to their Brainless, Bodyless Fool of an Ancient, Primitive, Pagan Greek theos, Satan, that makes the entire Sky “Spin” around the land “One” time every day and night and that had given that Foundation “Correct Hunch,” “Ortho-doxy,” to those Emperors, which made each of them into their being referred to as, “the One-Spin-ic Emperors,” over their Gold Coin Money Economy) to do the things which they did.

One thing which that Roman One-spin-ic Assembly, those Employees of the Administration of the Medieval Roman Empire’s Gold Coin Money Economy, thus organized, from the top down, from the beginning of what they named, “the Dark Ages,” did, was that they destroyed essentially all of the easily retold Story of the Establishment of LAW, among the Israelite-organized Nordic People, by their Resurrected God. Since those Nordic People ― followers of LAW ― were organized as they have been, with LAW’s requirement of Respect for all other Individuals, it can be thought of their being organized (with each Individual trying to live the LAW) “from the bottom up.”

With that Situation it can be observed how the “from the top down” organized Roman One-spin-ic Assembly was able to “destroy essentially all of the easily retold Story of the Establishment of LAW among the Israelite-organized Nordic People by their Resurrected God,” that is, that Story as it was retold among individual Groups of those Nordic People, in each of their individual Languages. However, in the Information Age, now, today, that Story, as it was originally taught, has been completely re-established, from the Elements of that Story, as they were retained in each of those Languages.


Work together by the Law, not by Satan's currency and Satan's government!


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:49 am 
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Darren wrote:
Whereas we all came into these parts of America with one and the same end and aim, namely, to advance the Kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ and to enjoy the liberties of the Gospel in purity with peace; (The Articles of Confederation of the United Colonies of New England; May 19, 1643)

While the advancement of the Kingdom of our Lord was the primary aim and was supported and nurtured by Christ, the primary control satan used, which was the primary reason our forefathers left, was a debt based monetary system. Debt based monetary systems, no matter if it is top-down or not, have always been satans primary form of control of the masses. This system enables and then uses every type of evil satan has at his disposal. Without a debt based monetary system in place, the pioneers would have never left England in the first place. This was the driving force because this system enabled the restriction of all the rest of the freedoms men enjoyed. Including the freedom to worship how one may.
Darren wrote:
That very deliberate, intelligent and very well planned out undertaking for the demise of God's children began much before the 1700's. For the sake of New England Colonists the beginnings of that plan was with the creation of the Bank of England in in 1694. That diabolical plan was based on the top-down controls that started in Babylon and lived on through the Greeks, and as the Pharisee developed empires of Parthia, Ottoman, Rome and the Nation States of today, based on Top-down Governments, Central Banking and Political Orthodoxy.

Very well put Darren, I did misspeak on the date to be sure. It did start much earlier than the late 1700's. And if we are being honest, it started with cain when the original secret combinations were brought forth upon this earth. But in the context of this country, it did start with the creation of the bank of England to be sure.
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Thank you for your thoughts LittleLion.
God Bless,
Darren

Thank you for your thoughts and words also Darren, especially the good read from our friend satan.
May God Bless you and yours also.


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LittleLion wrote:
While the advancement of the Kingdom of our Lord was the primary aim and was supported and nurtured by Christ, the primary control satan used, which was the primary reason our forefathers left, was a debt based monetary system. Debt based monetary systems, no matter if it is top-down or not, have always been satans primary form of control of the masses. This system enables and then uses every type of evil satan has at his disposal. Without a debt based monetary system in place, the pioneers would have never left England in the first place. This was the driving force because this system enabled the restriction of all the rest of the freedoms men enjoyed. Including the freedom to worship how one may.


Debt Based Monetary Systems

Debt alone is not the issue, we are all indebted to God. I have many friends I will always be indebted to. The key is to only engage in debt among friends. And friends are best kept when that friendship is based on God’s Law.

Bruce Wydner wrote:
The employees of numerous “ordinary companies,” very regularly, “borrow” money from the company’s “employers,” its “owners,” its “stockholders.” These employees BIND themselves to a specific plan to repay their employers, and these employees are held tightly liable and accountable for following that Plan. Now, if those employees make a deal with some unwary soul, OUTSIDE of their company’s corporation, and those employees do not perform, they have only “a LIMITED liability,” to those outsiders, maybe getting off “free” from any obligation, maybe shunting off to their employers, their owners, their stockholders, the ultimate liability for their mistaken deeds. HOWEVER, those employees have no such device to protect them from the “in-house” arrangements that we have spoken of. The in-house arrangements, the “loans” which a company’s employees go and arrange to “borrow,” “for a while,” from the company’s owners, its stockholders, are very “direct,” as opposed to being indirect, with non-owners. Should employees fail to perform the plan to repay these, their direct employers, the OWNERS of their company, of course there is nothing to protect them, from the fury of these direct owners, in punishing them.


System(s) alone are not the issue, humans prefer living by the division of labor, rather than living by rugged individualism.

Bruce Wydner wrote:
Our Work

We wish to work together. In the division of labor of this world there is something that each of us can do that will benefit the others.

The people of the earth generally recognize the benefit of the division of labor. The constant issue among those among whom the labor is divided is, who shall have the “power.” There has to be direction to the labor. “Who shall direct it?” This “power” comes out as the word, “force.”

To quickly see how “force” works among us, let’s take the case of a typical business. If the business gets a patent, copyright, or some contract, that it plans to operate upon, it can go to the courts of the land to get injunctions or restraining orders against trespasses of these patents, copyrights and contracts.

The people executing the order, the police, are armed. They are directed by the court to enforce compliance with the court order. If the police don’t have enough force the court can call out the national guard or even the militia (all able-bodied males). That has always been sufficient “force.”

This “power” of which we speak is “the right to force people.”

In the eyes of the part of mankind experienced in work, it is an impossibility for people to work together without “power” ― “the right to force people.”

“But, people who are forced to work are SLAVES!”

With one exception.

“What is that?”

That is if, in our work together, I force me and you force you.

That is what, as we shall now see, has been “Law” for as far back as we have record of it. It is an immediately attractive concept at first glance. It becomes more so as it is investigated. However, as we will also now see, you and I will be called upon to each force ourselves, all by ourselves, if we wish to “open up the way” to the enjoyment of its benefits.


The evil in “debt based monetary systems” is the word Monetary. Monetary denotes a top-down system, where the force comes from. Top-down systems are systems where you cannot question the system, you are forced by the arbitrary controls of people who "know better than you," unless you want you head chopped off.

Darren


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The Roman Emperor Diocletian and his successor, Constantine felt that they were able to continue, somewhat, in the position that their predecessors as Roman Emperors had, if they put on the coins, which they minted, and by which they controlled the Monetary Economy of the Mediterranean Sea area, that they (as well as their successors) were, each one of them, “the Lord and God” of the Roman Empire and of all those who operated by their Coins.

They and the subsequent Emperors of the Roman and Byzantine Empires felt that they were the Lords and Gods of the Roman Empire etc. because of the Satanic foundation concepts of Ancient Greek Statecraft. Those Satanic foundation concepts included that each of them were the sole connection, the “One-spin-ic” connection, between the Population of the World, that operated on their Coins, and the “Brainless, Bodyless Fool of an Ancient, Primitive, Pagan Greek theos, that makes nearly everything that is in the Sky “SPIN” around the land “ONE” time every day and night, in a “ONE-SPIN.”

The Ancient Greek expression for their Satanic concept of being “One-spin-ic,” is, “Catholic.” The Ancient Greek word for an “Assembly,” specifically for The Assembly of their Government’s employees that managed the Coin Money Economy of the Ancient Greeks and Romans, was the Ancient Greek word, “Ecclesia.” Romans in association with their collaborators such as the Satanic Apostate, mentioned in D&C 86:3, all that the “Roman Catholic Ecclesia” was, that began administering the Roman Coin Money Economy from Fortresses, throughout, previously, Roman Western Europe, was just that same “Assembly” of those same employees administering the Roman Coin Money Economy of Western Europe. They called themselves, “the Roman One-Spin-ic Assembly,” because they were doing the bidding of their “One-Spin-ic” Emperor, which was Diocletian, then Constantine, and then their Successors.

So, “the Roman Catholic Ecclesia,” of those times, when they kept such amounts of information about what was going on away from people that those times are called, “the Dark Ages,” was just the same old Roman One-Spin-ic Assembly administering their Roman Coin Money Economy, but now from Fortresses, according to the Dictates of their Roman One-Spin-ic Emperors, in Constantinople, who had it stamped, on their Coins, that each of them were now “the Lord and God” of all users of their Coins because they were the Sole Connection between people here on the land and the Brainless, Bodyless, Fool of an Ancient, Primitive, Pagan Greek theos that makes the Sky Spin around the land One time every day and night.

“The Apostacy” is only the Satanic, “the Apostate,” who suggested to Diocletian, Constantine, and their Successors that, in addition to their putting on their Coins that each one of those Emperors is the “Lord and God” of all users of those Coins, that Constantine also start telling people that the Brainless, Bodyless Fool of an Ancient, Primitive, Pagan Greek theos, that makes the Sky Spin around the land One time every day and night (of which Constantine and his Successors are the ONLY “One-Spin-ic” connection between that and all of the People in the World) is the God of the Bible of the Christian Knighthood Conquerors of the Romans’ Infantry Army.

However, by the Satanic “the Apostate” specifically telling Constantine to do that, he made it so that all Satanic Ancient Babylonian, Greek, Roman etc. STATECRAFT is “perishing” in our day, because of the Restoration of the Fulness of the Gospel with the Book of Mormon, as the Prophet Isaiah prophesied that that will happen, in Isaiah 29:14.

The format of the 1,000-page Course is how it is that the basis of Ancient Greek Statecraft, that “Virtue cannot be taught,” is destroyed by the information that the Book of Mormon presents to its readers.

When Constantine and his Collaborators began saying that their Brainless, Bodyless Fool of an Ancient, Primitive, Pagan Greek theos was the God of the Bible of the Knighthood Conquerors of their, previous, Infantry Army, they made moves to try to use that to their advantage. The basis of Ancient Greek Statecraft is that there can never be any “teachers of virtue,” because “Virtue cannot be taught.” In the 1,000-page Course the points are made of how the Ancient Pagan Greeks felt that, since that teaching would have to be done with the words of Language, a teacher of Virtue would, ultimately, need to be able to explain with “one word” the “one act” which, thus being taught to a person, by a Teacher of Virtue, would make that person virtuous, by doing that act.

Trying to work around that, Constantine and his Collaborators investigated what the Bible’s concept of “Virtue” is. The reward that the Bible says is there for those who are virtuous is “the Gift of Eternal Life,” through “the strait gate and narrow way.” Constantine and his Collaborators investigated to see, in the Bible that they got their hands on, if there was any way that the Bible’s reward of “Virtue,” to Mankind, “Eternal Life,” is taught anywhere in the Bible, as being gotten by doing “one act” that is taught by “one word” that gives the doer of that act that reward. They investigated it. They took their stand. It was that nowhere in the Bible, that they had, is there “one word” for “one act,” the doing of which rewards its doer with the Bible’s reward of the Bible’s VIRTUE, ETERNAL LIFE.

So, since Constantine and his Collaborators, along with all of their Employees of the Roman Catholic Ecclesia, took their Stand, as the basis of European Statecraft from their day to this day: “That nowhere are there any Teachers of the Bible’s VIRTUE, ETERNAL LIFE, because nowhere in their Bible, surviving from their Dark Ages, is there the teaching that teaches people the “one word” for the “one act” that rewards the doer of that act with the Bible’s VIRTUE, ETERNAL LIFE.

Alma does that for his son Helaman in the 37th Chapter of Alma.

The Ancient Greeks also said that it will never be possible to scientifically explain that Mystery, to their Babylonian predecessors, of how it is that the Languages of the World work. That has been done in our day. The Internet, invented in Utah, that the entire Population of the World is operating on today, comes from that scientific explanation. A very large part of that scientific explanation, that the whole World is operating on today, originated from that Explanation of Alma to his Son, Helaman, in Alma Chapter 37.


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The evil in “debt based monetary systems” is the word Monetary. Monetary denotes a top-down system, where the force comes from. Top-down systems are systems where you cannot question the system, you are forced by the arbitrary controls of people who "know better than you," unless you want you head chopped off. Darren


This is true. But, in a virtuous and righteous monetary system there is no "debt" created when money is created, as the Constitution dictates. When the people create the money out of thin air, but based on gold for instance, the people do not owe anyone nor is their any "interest" payments made to anyone. The market dictates how much money is created and is in circulation at any one time.

As you well know, in the system we have now, we have to pay back a corporation, the federal reserve, for money they create out of thin air, based on nothing, money that they obviously did not have in the first place, AND, pay them back interest on that same money that heretofore did not exist. This is the root of all evil, this type of monetary system. This does not have to be in a top down system either. All that is required is that society except the contracts that are created. Then, even if there is force when someone defaults on a contract, it is force of the people and by the people that the people created and agreed to from the outset.

Yes we do live in a system that is full of deception and lies, where there is not an even playing field, and it is a top-down system I agree. The people have to be kept from the truth in order for this system to work, or there has to be massive and continuous force to keep the people in line even when they know they are slaves. satan could not survive an even playing field where truth is known by all, the same way he did not survive the war in heaven.

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This is true. But, in a virtuous and righteous monetary system there is no "debt" created when money is created, as the Constitution dictates. When the people create the money out of thin air, but based on gold for instance, the people do not owe anyone nor is their any "interest" payments made to anyone. The market dictates how much money is created and is in circulation at any one time.


This is where my training from my linguist friend kicks in. When you think you know the meaning of terms, try studying with a man who is a walking Etymology Dictionary, and professionally translated 12 languages, not to mention the many ancient languages he reads.

A Righteous Monetary System is a misnomer. Monetary is based on Moneta. Moneta is the pagan goddess Juno Moneta of the apostate Greek religion. A Monetary System is an apostate way to work together. You cannot have a righteous, apostate way to work together.

You need to internalize some perspective that your ancestors said was the "bunch of baloney" from the false culture. That way you will not say things that classify you as one of the 99.9% of people operating under the "gross darkness" perpetuated by the apostate system.

LittleLion wrote:
As you well know, in the system we have now, we have to pay back a corporation, the federal reserve, for money they create out of thin air, based on nothing, money that they obviously did not have in the first place, AND, pay them back interest on that same money that heretofore did not exist. This is the root of all evil, this type of monetary system. This does not have to be in a top down system either. All that is required is that society except the contracts that are created. Then, even if there is force when someone defaults on a contract, it is force of the people and by the people that the people created and agreed to from the outset.


The Federal Reserve Corporation is operating outside of law, it is an abomination, and must be shut down. Corporations have limited control of issues outside their corporation. The Federal Reserve believes that we somehow are within its control. We need to show them otherwise.

LittleLion wrote:
Yes we do live in a system that is full of deception and lies, where there is not an even playing field, and it is a top-down system I agree. The people have to be kept from the truth in order for this system to work, or there has to be massive and continuous force to keep the people in line even when they know they are slaves. satan could not survive an even playing field where truth is known by all, the same way he did not survive the war in heaven.

LL


Great Job LL. you have a good heart, and I am trying to give you a little more of that goodness, and get you infused with some really powerful ammo.

Thank you LL,
God Bless You,
Darren

It is interesting how two posts seem to merge, so I am going to copy the link to the other post I am maintaining over on this other thread.
How do we survive the implosion of the US Dollar?
http://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=4200
Give it a read.

My other posts here answer some of these questions about currency and government.


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This is where my training from my linguist friend kicks in. When you think you know the meaning of terms, try studying with a man who is a walking Etymology Dictionary, and professionally translated 12 languages, not to mention the many ancient languages he reads.

A Righteous Monetary System is a misnomer. Monetary is based on Moneta. Moneta is the pagan goddess Juno Moneta of the apostate Greek religion. A Monetary System is an apostate way to work together. You cannot have a righteous, apostate way to work together.

You need to internalize some perspective that your ancestors said was the "bunch of baloney" from the false culture. That way you will not say things that classify you as one of the 99.9% of people operating under the "gross darkness" perpetuated by the apostate system.


It would be very nice to speak every word and have them be understood as I mean them in my heart. Aside from our actions, we are going to be judged, for the most part, by what is in our heart and not necessarily by what we say, especially if we don't know the etymology and the meaning being perceived by the ones we are talking too. That being said, since you are obviously very intelligent, you know exactly what is in my heart and what I am trying to say, without question my friend. :) More on this topic in a moment.

Lets see. If we have a system of commerce where coinage/monies are created and dispersed as the constitution allows, we will have a righteous and most virtuous system. The words righteous being characterized by or proceeding from accepted standards of morality or justice and virtuous being a morally excellent way, these are the correct words for what I am trying to say. You cannot have commerce without justice and morality or you get the federal reserve.

Getting back to etymology and meanings of words;

And so great was the faith of Enoch that he led the people of God, and their enemies came to battle against them; and he spake the word of the Lord, and the earth trembled, and the mountains fled, even according to his command; and the rivers of water were turned out of their course; and the roar of the lions was heard out of the wilderness; and all nations feared greatly, so powerful was the word of Enoch, and so great was the power of the language which God had given him.

(Pearl of Great Price | Moses 7:13)

Words and language have eternal meanings and etymologies and have the ability to be extremely powerful. What you say is true, many people including myself have been fooled by the apostate system, the false system. We have to understand that we truly have been living in "gross darkness" as far as this is concerned. But you cannot fool what is in our hearts and what we know in our guts is right, which is the light of Christ which all our born with. What is in our hearts is a great starting place, if we then combine it with the correct language, faith and action, we become as Enoch. I do understand to a degree.

Thank you so much for trying to infuse me with more of that goodness, I truly appreciate your efforts and time in doing so. Infuse away!

God bless you and yours.

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Looks like we are transitioning into the next phase:

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?N ... Cr1=debate

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Gordon Brown, PM of UK, September 26, 2008 at UN Headquarters, New York:

To bring an end to the culture of irresponsibility, “we must now build a new global financial order founded on transparency, not opacity; rewarding success, not excess; responsibility, not impunity; and which is global, not national.


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LittleLion wrote:

Lets see. If we have a system of commerce where coinage/monies are created and dispersed as the constitution allows, we will have a righteous and most virtuous system. The words righteous being characterized by or proceeding from accepted standards of morality or justice and virtuous being a morally excellent way, these are the correct words for what I am trying to say. You cannot have commerce without justice and morality or you get the federal reserve.


The Federal Reserve has the power it has because we have shrunk from the powers inherent in our own culture, the power of business to make decisions. The reason the economic business model of New England was altered and eventually overwhelmed by the Federal Reserve Bank was because the New Englanders had forgotten the method of how to operate an economy by true business structure. A virtuous economic system is operated by LAW.

Ask any protestant to define true virtue and you will not have a clear definable answer.

Ask Joseph Smith to define virtue and you will have the one word that is the thought that if done always causes you to love god with all your mind, you become perfect, and receive eternal life, the word is in Alma 37:46

Joseph Smith taught the early members of the Church how to continue in the New England model of having business participants make and keep oaths (covenants to operate by virtue, by seeking the Lord,) and by maintaining the integrity of those oaths through Stake President Courts. An economic system based on these Oaths is an economic system based on virtue. Then we have the enforcement of these oaths by the Stake President Courts, just like how the Saxons enforced the oaths of Freemen in County Courts for thousands of years.

If we get back to the culture of our ancestors of Looking or Seeking, we have Zion. This is the culture of the lost tribes of Israel. And it has nothing to do with a Monetary System.

When we talk about “what the constitution allows,” we are so short sighted to think we know anything about the Constitution, without understanding the culture behind the Constitution.

This is the purpose of the Scriptures of the lost tribes of Israel, to teach us the Law, how to operated by the Law, the basis of the US Constitution, including all of the predecessor constitutions before it, as established by our lost ten tribe forefather's culture.

A Virtuous Law System didn’t just flame into existence with the writing of the US Constitution, These principles have operated with the peoples and the organization that was the Church of Jesus Christ of former-day Saints, as it existed since about 40 AD, established by Christ in Northern Europe.

LittleLion wrote:

It would be very nice to speak every word and have them be understood as I mean them in my heart. Aside from our actions, we are going to be judged, for the most part, by what is in our heart and not necessarily by what we say, especially if we don't know the etymology and the meaning being perceived by the ones we are talking too. That being said, since you are obviously very intelligent, you know exactly what is in my heart and what I am trying to say, without question my friend.


The way we use language is much the same way we use money, impersonal. The Adamic Language is based on personal connections, via the Holy Ghost.

I have been exposed to genius, and then I began to allow that genius to become incorporated into my own modest intelligence. For me I have a duality of experience, as I was on the level of the general LDS for most of my life, but I have also acquired a new perspective from my seeking with so many amazing opportunities. So I now operate in both perspectives. Bruce Wydner is almost un-understandable by most people, but I understand him, and as for the rest of us, I’m on your level too.


LittleLion wrote:

Getting back to etymology and meanings of words;

And so great was the faith of Enoch that he led the people of God, and their enemies came to battle against them; and he spake the word of the Lord, and the earth trembled, and the mountains fled, even according to his command; and the rivers of water were turned out of their course; and the roar of the lions was heard out of the wilderness; and all nations feared greatly, so powerful was the word of Enoch, and so great was the power of the language which God had given him.

(Pearl of Great Price | Moses 7:13)

Words and language have eternal meanings and etymologies and have the ability to be extremely powerful. What you say is true, many people including myself have been fooled by the apostate system, the false system. We have to understand that we truly have been living in "gross darkness" as far as this is concerned. But you cannot fool what is in our hearts and what we know in our guts is right, which is the light of Christ which all our born with. What is in our hearts is a great starting place, if we then combine it with the correct language, faith and action, we become as Enoch. I do understand to a degree.


The power in a word is a function of thought. A thought is Energy that is converted through Quality to affect Matter. We could all move mountains, if we really understood the Power in the Priesthood. Virtue is Energy, Priesthood is the mechanism for utilizing this Energy, and priesthood can only be handled upon the principles of righteousness and that gets us back to Alma 37:46. Our ancestors operated their culture by this mechanism, and we again will operate by this mechanism instead of by the Monetary System of Satan.

God Bless,
Darren


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Thomas Jefferson where were you when we needed you...

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"I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against any form
of tyranny over the minds and lives of men. To preserve our
independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.
We must take our choice between economy and liberty, or profusion and
servitude. If we run into such debts, we must be taxed in our meat and
drink, in our necessities and in our
comforts, in our labors and in our amusements. If we can prevent the
government from wasting the labor of the people under the pretense of
caring for them, they [the people] will be happy."
-- Thomas Jefferson


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Thomas Jefferson may not be here now, but he left us a clue to where to look for the answer.

Cleon Skousen wrote:
The Majesty of God’s Law

Why the Anglo-Saxon Link With Moses Was Important

Thomas Jefferson knew that it was not at all sufficient to learn from the 30th chapter of Deuteronomy that modern man was expected to revive and implement the "perfect law" given to Moses, but the monumental problem was finding out how it originally worked and how to put it into operation.

Consider, for example, the "statutes" given to Moses. They had never been codified in a simple, readily available text for ready reference. After 3,200 years they still remained scattered among the books of the Pentateuch which Moses had written.

And that was not the only problem. Even if these statutes had been codified, there were no treatises or instructions on the manner in which the jurisprudence of the Israelites operated. There was also no background on the way the political system worked. When a serious student of the Bible pursued an in-depth understanding of the Lord's statutes and divine system of government, he was likely to come away with some extremely puzzling problems.

Having coming up with all these puzzlements after years of strenuous study of the Bible, Thomas Jefferson was astonished and thrilled to discover that just a few centuries before he was born there were still people living on the earth who had practiced the principles of government and law that God gave to Moses. Once he had learned that the Anglo-Saxons had this great heritage or legacy from the past, nothing would satisfy Jefferson until he had learned the Anglo-Saxon language and studied their Mosaic "statutes" in their native texts.


Cleon Skousen wrote:
The Majesty of God’s Law

Jefferson not only studied everything he could find out about these people who were the ancestors of most of the colonists, but he devoted many months to learning how to read the Anglo-Saxon language so that he could study their ancient principles of law and government from their original writings.


Cleon Skousen wrote:
The Majesty of God’s Law

8. Thomas Jefferson studied God's laws in the Bible, and found some of his own ancestors had been practicing these laws. To whom was Jefferson referring? Have you ever studied the law of these people to see how they compared with the laws of the Bible?


Thomas Jefferson studied what he had available from the Scriptures of the Anglo-Saxons, and Cleon Skousen asks you if you have ever studied Anglo-Saxon Law. What does that suggest you should be studying, learning and teaching to others?

The answer is out there, on the Internet, in quantities unheard of, that would amaze Thomas Jefferson if he were alive today.


Hugh Nibley wrote:

So money is the name of the game by which the devil cleverly decoys the minds of the Saints from God's work to his. "What does the Lord want of us up here in the tops of these mountains?" Brigham asked twenty years after the first settling of the Valley. "He wishes us to build up Zion. What are the people doing? They are merchandizing, trafficking and trading." "Elders are agreed on the way and manner necessary to obtain celestial glory, but they quarrel about a dollar. When principles of eternal life are brought before them--God and the things pertaining to God and godliness--they apparently care not half so much about them as they do about five cents." "Instead of reflecting upon and searching for hidden things of the greatest value to them, [the Latter-day Saints] rather wish to learn how to secure their way through this world as easily and as comfortably as possible. The reflections, what they are here for, who produced them, and where they are from, far too seldom enter their minds." Well, what was wrong with that? Isn't a comfortable living what we all want? It would be all right if we did not have our choice, but if we fail to realize that "we are engaged in a higher-toned branch of business than any merchants or railroad men, or any institution of an earthly nature," and give priority to the comfortable and respectable life after we have seen the greater light, we are in great danger. "Are their eyes single to the building up of the Kingdom of God? No; they are single to the building up of themselves." "Does this congregation understand what idolatry is? The New Testament says that covetousness is idolatry; therefore, a covetous people is an idolatrous people." "Man is made in the image of God, but what do we know of him or of ourselves, when we suffer ourselves to love and worship the god of this world--riches?" Had the Latter-day Saints gone so far? They had, from the beginning; when the Church was only a year old, the Prophet Joseph observed that "God has often sealed up the heavens because of covetousness in the Church." Three years later, God revoked that "united order" by which alone Zion could exist on earth (D&C 104:52-53)--in their desire for wealth, the Saints had tried to embrace both Babylon and Zion by smooth double-talk. The Mormons would have to wait for their blessings until they learned their lesson: "If the people neglect their duty, turn away from the holy commandments which God has given us, seek for their own individual wealth, and neglect the interests of the kingdom of God, we may expect to be here quite a time--perhaps a period that will be far longer than we anticipate."

Collected Works of Hugh Nibley, Vol.9, Ch.2, p.37


Money is not the answer.

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I love the Nibley quote from Bro. Brigham Darren. It is an indictment on us all. Babylon is so entreched in all aspects of our culture and way of life. We all want to keep one foot in babylon and other pointed toward Zion to some degree or another. It will be as Nibley said in Approaching Zion the last great test for the Saints in order to purify themselves. Oh what a test it is! It is the ultimate conquering of the natural man tendencies in us all.


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Darren wrote:
The Federal Reserve has the power it has because we have shrunk from the powers inherent in our own culture, the power of business to make decisions. The reason the economic business model of New England was altered and eventually overwhelmed by the Federal Reserve Bank was because the New Englanders had forgotten the method of how to operate an economy by true business structure.

The Federal Reserve has its power because people have stopped looking and just except what their leaders say without question. The Federal Reserve has its power because of deception, lies, greed, sloth, force, murder and intimidation. The Federal Reserve has its power because they are ruthless and they follow satans plan to the tee. The Federal Reserve has its power not because we have forgotten any business method or structure, it is because we are caught in the trap Alma mentions to Helaman also in Alma 37:46. The FED has their power because they give us just enough rope to hang ourselves with.
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When we talk about “what the constitution allows,” we are so short sighted to think we know anything about the Constitution, without understanding the culture behind the Constitution. A virtuous economic system is operated by LAW. A Virtuous Law System didn’t just flame into existence with the writing of the US Constitution, These principles have operated with the peoples and the organization that was the Church of Jesus Christ of former-day Saints, as it existed since about 40 AD, established by Christ in Northern Europe.

When I said "what the constitution allows" I was referring to the LAW that was written my men that Christ rose up for this very purpose. Men who used the lessons of history and took all the best parts of the LAWS that man had been living and using since Adam. Your right, it did not just flame into existence, it took billions of people making mistakes over and over again until they finally recognized it, wrote it down, and lived it for centuries. The LAW is what it is, and the constitution is the LAW that allows or disallows certain actions The same way an oath allowed or disallowed certain actions back when oaths were the LAW. You swore by an oath just as you should swear by the constitution now. But the PTB have sworn by their own secret oaths, the same oaths sworn by cain, so our law, the constitution, means nothing now, and the rules keep changing to suit the PTB. Oaths and covenants are Gods way and until we get back to that the constitution is the next best thing, but when our leaders call it just a G.D. piece of paper like Bush did, we need to make a stand like some of us have.


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LL, you are very good, thank you for your thoughts.

LittleLion wrote:
The Federal Reserve has its power because people have stopped looking and just except what their leaders say without question.

Yes I agree, we have been mostly won over by the deductive system of Satan, allowing the Smarties to run our lives, relying on the arm of flesh, and not following the Holy Ghost. How do we get back to the True System, in light of such a dependence of our people on the Evil System?

Let’s get deeper into this, from a true perspective. Lots of reading ahead and lots of intelligence ahead.

Bruce Wydner wrote:
WORK Together By The LAW

…to get right to the point … “What is Work?”

If one were to ask almost anyone, “How do the People of the World ‘Work Together’?” probably nearly everyone who is asked might be expected to say something like, “Well, the World Works Together by ‘Money.’” And, although that might be the nearly spontaneous response of nearly everyone, if we just look at the way that the World in fact does operate, today, we see that that specific “old” answer is, technically, what might be thought of as a sort of a ridiculous kind of a thing in actual circumstances today.

In North America today over 90% of the volume of “financial transactions” takes place “electronically,” by credit cards etc. Less than 10% of all of those transactions take place by the inventions of the Medieval, North Europeans’ Ancestral Free Enterprise System, which they named with the South European names of, “bills and notes.” But, technically, those medieval inventions are also not “money.” Technically, “Money,” the medium through which those in the Ancient, Pagan Greeks and Romans’ Empires “worked together,” meant, “metallic Coins.” And almost everybody knows, except for making it possible to count out “small change,” today, how relatively “irrelevant,” in relation to overall financial values, the role had by metallic Coins is today.

As dealt with at length in the 1,000-page Course, the name, “Money,” was the name of the Chief Pagan Goddess of the Ancient, Pagan Romans. The original name, Moneta, came down through the Middle Ages as, “Monetary,” “Money” etc. And, since the Romans figured out how to get that part of their Ancient, Pagan way of working together to be able to survive, the ordinary “man on the street,” today, will say that the people of the World “work together,” today, by Money.

To see how “ridiculous” that is today, in relation to overall financial values, we can look at the reality of the way that the People of the World Work Together today. The main one of the many types of metallic Coins, which the Ancient, Pagan Romans operated with, was Gold Coins. This had the effect that it had on people living in Western Europe ― where no “minable” Gold had ever been found ― of them traveling to and through Ancient, Pagan Rome to get the Gold Coins that came there from the Gold Mines of nearby Asia Minor, which came to Southern Italy through Greece.

However, today, if all of the Gold ― such as the Ancient Southern Europeans worked together by ― that has ever been mined, in the History of the World (and that includes all of the Gold that has ever been made into Dental Fillings, Jewelry etc., so much of which is in graves, today, or is otherwise “inaccessible”) were to be divided up equally among everybody alive today in the World’s Current Population of near to 6,500,000,000 persons, that would only amount to an allotment of a few hundred dollars worth of Gold, one time, that would be allotted to each person (every man, woman and child) who is alive today. There would be no more Gold to ever let that be repeated.

Today the People of the World work together by the most valuable thing in the World that they know of. It is by the “Wealth” of the People of Northern Europe.

In the History of the People of Northern Europe, when one “heal-s,” the result is “heal-th”; if a person “steal-s” (through the shadows), that person creates “steal-th.” The essence of the way that the People of the North European Race have always “worked together,” has to do with “Voting.” The word that has always been used among the Languages of Northern Europe for, “to Vote,” has always been, “Weal.” When a person, “votes,” “weal-s,” in the North European People’s History, that person created, “Weal-th.” Of course “voting” was not an historic issue among the people of Southern Europe where, for example, ½ of the Populations of the Pagan Greek and Roman Empires were Slaves. Slavery was, historically, unknown among the North European Race.

The type of “Stock” that Workers among the North European People received for doing their “Work,” in the “Business” they worked for, is called, today, “Common Stock.” That means that it is “Voting” Stock. That is a large part of what the North European People called their, “Weal-th.” The cover story of the Time Magazine for December 29, 1997, mentioned (on page 50 of that edition) that on the Internet, every day, at that time, 15 Trillion Dollars worth of Voting Stock, or Wealth, was exchanged (in that year of 1997, that was then concluding). That amounts to over $2,300 every day for every Man, Woman and Child alive, at that time, in a World Population of 6,500,000,000. That is, that amount of North European “Wealth” was exchanged every day. So, that value is part of the very significant value, for every person alive today, that is utilized every day. That is how WORK happens among the People of the World today.

Some people might ask, “I wonder why we don’t hear more about such things?” An answer to that is that those who came into a control over what the World has, historically, called the Ancient Pagan Greeks and Romans’ concept of, “Money,” seem to feel that it is in their interest if they can just keep people, in relation to it, in the “Mental Environment” in which the Ancient Pagan Greeks and Romans operated.

“And, what kind of a ‘Mental Environment’ was that?” It is the Mental Environment that maintains that the ONLY WAY THAT THE HUMAN RACE CAN OPERATE IS THE WAY THAT THE LEADERSHIP OF THE ANCIENT PAGAN GREEKS AND ROMANS’ GOVERNMENTS PRODUCED THEIR MONEY TO CONTROL THE WAY THAT PEOPLE “WORKED TOGETHER.”

“And, that is not Working Together By The Law?” No, it is not.


Working by Satan’s System under the Gross Darkness of his deceptions is not a way to Work Together, but we have almost completely bought into this evil system controlling our minds.


LittleLion wrote:
The Federal Reserve has its power because of deception, lies, greed, sloth, force, murder and intimidation. The Federal Reserve has its power because they are ruthless and they follow satans plan to the tee. The Federal Reserve has its power not because we have forgotten any business method or structure, it is because we are caught in the trap Alma mentions to Helaman also in Alma 37:46. The FED has their power because they give us just enough rope to hang ourselves with.


The Matrix of Control is so overwhelming, where do we look for guidance?

Bruce Wydner wrote:
Every person is free to draw his or her own conclusions about the significance of anything he or she comes upon as an experience of life. Most of us are curious enough about what other people in the world are doing at present to study indicators of the situations existing among these other people and us… It is probable, as well, that most of us sense that there is some sort of a “master or super organization” among men that either runs poorly or passably and that when it runs poorly we suffer. We all sort of sense that that super organization can’t really be the U.N., because the U.N. is relatively new and the super organization (whatever it may be — tangibly) is old. There is such an organization. It rules the earth at this time.

“Is it good or bad?” When it fails we have World War.

“Well, whatever it is, it is for certain that we cannot let it fail. What is it that we all could do that would insure that it will not fail?”

It is the burden of this Book to show people that by knowing and living the Look Doctrine (Alma 37:46) they are in a position to show the human race how to save itself from the TEMPORAL destruction waiting below the chasm edge it teeters on. It will show the author’s finding that lack of knowledge of the Look Doctrine (Alma 37:46) is the precise historical reason for the murderous blindness that has characterized the world-scale undertakings of men in this age we call the “modern” one.

As an element in the introductory words of this book, mention was made of “Protestantism.”

Men speak glibly of “Protestantism,” as though it were nothing more than perhaps shallow thinking on the part of some worshipers assembled in a typical neighborhood in Northern Europe or North America. However, the point at issue in what is normally considered the commencement of Protestantism is the point upon which depends the material well-being of all modern life on Earth; it is the point where the philosophy of Communism erred in its conception; it was the whole point at issue as the Wars of Religion tore the lands of our European forebears (or at least predecessors, as the case may be) to pieces for a hundred years and is traceably the problem behind World War.

“What is this point behind Protestantism that is so fraught with significance?”

In exasperation at what he saw as Catholicism’s callous brazenness, Luther broached the issue as he took his pen in hand and wrote the words expressing the stand beyond which exploited people in Northern Europe would not allow themselves to be pushed. He wrote, “An den christlischen Edel deutscher Nation um den christlischen Standes Zustand”. “To the Christian nobility of the German nation concerning the status of THE CHRISTIAN STATE.”

“The Christian State!” “What in the world might ‘the Christian State’ be?”

In one way Catholicism almost won total victory in expunging from the mind of modern Americans what the “Christian State” of Northern Europe was. On the reverse of that coin, though, the working force of that “Christian State” is the “super organization” that holds together the material well-being of all human life on this planet at this date.

“How could any institution be so important to the well-being of the human race and yet be so non-understood?”

That is a question best answered in a place other than a book of this one’s specific nature. What is appropriate to address in a book of this nature, though, is the question, “What is the Christian State?” and by the answer to that question provide a matrix wherein the reader is at liberty to form his own opinion of what the significance of the Christian State may be.


The “Christian State”

In a number of ways the organization of England is typical of that of the other lands of the north of Europe. And, since it is most understandable to us because of the feature of a common tongue, it can serve as a model to teach us what this Christian State was that Luther stepped forward to defend against the onslaught of Catholic policy in his day.

England is divided into Shires such as the Provinces into which Canada is divided or the States of the USA. A Shire in England is then divided into subdivisions called, “Hundreds” in the south of England, “Wapentakes” in the east and, “Wards” in the north. Since it was in these Units that the Common Law Juries of the Middle Ages met, every three months, in medieval England, and, if the central feature of an American “County” still is that it is what has a County Courthouse wherein a Jury meets every three months, then these subdivisions in England are what correspond to Counties in the USA.

These subdivisions of England are further divided down into what today are called, “Civil Parishes.” In the Middle Ages these were just called, “Parishes,” by the government. They were the extensions of land drawing those who dwelt thereon to a common church meetinghouse. Since the people attending took the communion of the Lord’s Supper, Catholics preferred to call these Parishes, “Communes.” That expression survived in everyday English as, “Commons” — as in, “the House of Commons.” To the man on the street, however, these small divisions of England were always called, “Townships”; and it is as such that they were transplanted to this Continent, as the strong political divisions of Counties in New England, the weak political divisions of Counties of the Midwestern States and as the, generally, unorganized patterns for real-estate division in some Southern and most Western States.

This was the organization of the countryside in both England and medieval Northern Europe generally. It was the organization of the medieval English farmer and was the organization brought across the seas to serve as the basic pattern for governmental organization in the USA. However, although Luther may have had much concern for this aspect of the medieval “Christian State,” as well, it was for the fate of the medieval Christian State as it existed in the cities of Northern Europe, for which he appealed to the leaders who at length led the people of Northern Europe in defense of their liberties to war.

Since the origin of the original Thirteen States was in the bitter finale to the wars of religion in Northern Europe, where the wars were seen as caused by an attack on the Christian State as practiced in the cities of Northern Europe, it is understandable why a matter that was so explosive at that time was not transplanted across the seas to America. It is a commentary on the almost inconceivable forces at work in our World, on the other hand, that so powerful a matter as this one should be first introduced to the minds of most of the people who read this Book, at the time they do so. But, be that as it may, let us now read about the Christian State of the Cities of Northern Europe.


The Christian State of the Cities of Northern Europe

As we were able to use the organization of the countryside of England as an example to show us the organization of the countryside of Northern Europe generally, so we will find the organization of the medieval cities of Northern Europe in general shown us very well by the organization of medieval London.

The word “city” is an Italian word in origin and most correctly cannot be applied to those Northern Municipalities, especially in the significance about which we are now speaking. They were called, “burgs,” in most of the countries where they were located. The English word brought to the USA is, “boroughs.”

The “burg” of medieval London had the same organization as a “shire” out in the countryside. Just as some governmental matters in a shire were presided over by a “shire-reeve” or “sheriff,” so were some such matters in London presided over by a “Sheriff of London.” And, just as the Shires of Northern England are divided into “Wards,” so is London divided into “Wards.” This feature is very familiar since the division of an American city into Municipal “Wards” has been the typical thing to do in city organization in the USA. Furthermore, the leadership of each of the Wards of London (shire), by an “Alderman,” is a similar thing to the office, called “Alderman,” of the elected leader of a municipal Ward in many American cities. But, at this point similarities end, and the phenomenon of the Christian State begins, as regards the medieval cities of the north of Europe.

In the Middle Ages the inhabitants of a typical “Ward,” of a “Burg,” were all practitioners of the same “craft” or profession. That the members of that craft, living in the Ward, should call themselves a “brotherhood,” is not too far from the practice of the modern labor union; but the formalities that allowed one to become a member of the brotherhood, totally taken for granted in those days, bring us face to face with the Christian State. Just as the Wards of a countryside Shire were divided into Parishes (sometimes called, “Communes”), so were the Wards of London. However, where the typical countryside parish would contain a number of square miles of countryside, occupied by scattered farmsteads, a London Parish would only contain a few square blocks (remember that in those days there was theoretically only one organization of Christians and that all were expected to attend Church service).

A man was eligible to join his craft brotherhood as he joined the brotherhood of all Christian believers through the formal ceremonies of his Parish. Most importantly, from the vantage point of the doctrine treated by this Book, he was able to retain the right to continued participation in his brotherhood as long as he maintained his hold on the basic ethics of the brotherhood. “What were these ethics?” The basic ethics of Christianity, again, totally taken for granted.

Just as the brotherhood, or “craft gild” as it was generally called, was presided over by the Alderman of the Ward (as was apparently also a general thing for countryside Wards in earlier times), so the Alderman was assisted by a Jury of twelve “Wardens” who, in addition to performing the same duties toward the people of their Ward that the Juries of countryside Wards performed, also involved themselves, as masters of the craft in question, on the question of the ETHICAL ADEQUACY OF THE WORK of the brotherhood’s members. “How crucial to you and me was this labor of these thousands or millions of our medieval forebears, so involved in the Christian scruple of the maintenance of human life alive, well and happy?” The body of verdicts handed down by countryside Juries, since the Magna Carta, is the Common Law of England: the law vouching safe the Life, Liberty and Property of the English Free Man, transplanted to this hemisphere by the early English Colonists. “What was it that the Verdicts of the Juries of these Wardens of the Crafts of the Wards of the Burgs of Northern Europe gave to the world?” The Free Enterprise System.


The System

The typical American will feel a sense of pride in and loyalty to the Free Enterprise System. However, if asked to explain the System, at work, the typical response is silence or a group of words generally invented on the spot. School teaching on the subject is most mute. If we typically have but a faint hold on fundamentals of the Common Law, that gives us our basic American Rights of Life, Liberty and Property, the actual System that is our beloved Free Enterprise System seems to be beyond the grasp of almost everyone.

The Free Enterprise System in forty nine of the fifty States (Louisiana is the exception) is recognized in print in the pages of the particular State’s Code of Laws dealing with Business. The “Code” of Laws of a State will normally be an encyclopedia-type set of books, that your lawyer normally finds indispensable in providing his services to you. It contains the Laws, or Statutes, passed by your State’s Legislature, since its beginning. In the part of those books dealing with business or commerce you will find a statement that will probably read like this: “In all cases not covered by these Statutes the Law Merchant shall govern.” In other words, “The ‘Law Merchant’ has wisdom to solve everything that is outside of the spectrum of the specific cases that we know how to handle and have specifically provided for to be dealt with by these statutes that we have voted into this Code.” “What, then, is the ‘Law Merchant’?”


The Law Merchant

As the history maintained by schools begins for Northern Europe, we find the men of Scandinavia involved in total War against Catholicism as then practiced. These men in those histories are called, “the Vikings.”

As these Wars cool and the Vikings make a peace with Catholicism, at about the year 1000 A.D., we find The Vikings in complete control of all shipping in the Atlantic, from the Strait of Gibraltar north. Their establishment in the area south of Leningrad gave them direct access, through Russia (founded by Vikings during the 800’s) over the Volga to the Caspian Sea, with connections to the trade routes of China and India. Shipping from the Leningrad area westward to the lands of Western Europe comes upon a convenient large island in the Baltic Sea. It is the island of Gotland. It seems that from very early times all of the men involved in this shipping, from Gibraltar north, found the Burg of Wisby, on the west shore of Gotland, to be the most important port in all of their commerce. However that might have been, they had a Parliament of Commerce there to which Representatives came from Viking settlements everywhere. In conjunction with that “international” Parliament of Commerce these seafarers and merchants had a Supreme Court of Business, also maintained at Wisby. The island was just off that part of Sweden called “Gothland”; and Gotland is part of Gothland. This organization of all Viking seafarers and merchants was called by the Gothic name, “Hansa.”

For centuries before 1150 A.D. Germany did not extend to any shore of the Baltic Sea. All of the sea trade of the shores of the Baltic were controlled by Scandinavians. However, in 1145 A.D., Germans built a city on a long inlet from the Baltic that was very close to Hamburg. That allowed Germans to control trade from that inlet of the Baltic Sea to Hamburg on the North Sea. Because of that connection the new city on the Baltic gradually replaced Wisby as the center of trade for North Europe. As it did the new city, Lubeck, Germany, eventually came to hold most of the annual Parliaments of the Businessmen of Northern Europe there in Lubeck.

The Germans retained the name “Hansa” and most of the practices of the Wisby Parliament, but restricted representation in the Lubeck dominated Parliament to, primarily, the cities of Northern Germany. However, they also allowed continued representation from the major cities on the south shore of the Baltic (from Leningrad south) along with some of their inland supply points, a few cities in Holland and Sweden and from their four largest depots: London, Novgorod in Russia, Bergen in Norway and Bruges, Belgium.

In the earlier days, appeals by businessmen to the Verdicts of their Wardens was to the Supreme Court at Wisby. For one thing this produced a uniform Code for all seafarers called, “The Wisby Sea Laws.” These are the Laws for Shipping around the World to this day.

Later on, in the Lubeck days, the Hansa changed in a most significant way. The one Gild that dealt with the largest amount of money, the Merchants’ Gild, came to dominate life in the Burgs of the Lubeck Hansa. The Merchants continued most of their practices of the earlier days, but restricted involvement therein nearly exclusively to themselves. This involvement produced the Law Merchant, as is used today by all of the Countries in the World and IS that which is called, “International Law.”

A quick insight into its operation can, once again, be seen by English practice. If a dispute arose between a Hansa merchant and an English merchant, then, by a statute of 1313, six Hansa merchants and six English merchants were called, on the spot, to form a hasty Jury and decide the point of International Law at issue immediately.

This trust of weighty matters to a hasty Jury (as well as the whole idea of a twelve-man Jury, so aligned with the religious beliefs of the people) was an evidence of the most profound presupposition that is given as the chief distinctive point of the Law Merchant.

The heart of the Free Enterprise System, as it existed down to the end of the Middle Ages, was that “among merchants GOOD FAITH was PARAMOUNT” — see “The Romance of the Law Merchant,” by Wyndham A. Bewes, London, 1923, page 19.


Good Faith

The expression “good faith” is a “double entendre”: it can be understood in two different ways. The usual way to consider it is as the sincerity of a person operating within a recognized way of life. The second, however, is infinitely more fraught with significance: it is the absolute truth of that way of life. It was this second way of understanding “good faith” that Catholicism attacked so decisively around the year 1500 A.D. They asked the Hansa and the part of Europe most attached to the Gild System, Germanic Europe in general, what “good” faith was. Germanic Europe had no unified answer and collapsed into its subsequent disunity.

Catholic Europe had a reason to attack the understanding of Northern Europeans as to exactly what it was that GOOD faith was. The Turks were advancing up the east coast of the Adriatic Sea toward Italy. Italians wanted all Europeans united under a dictator powerful enough to fight the Turks successfully. The Hansa was prone to let the South Europeans fight the Turks. It was advantageous to Catholic parties to break up the Hansa. Also, America had just been discovered. The Pope had given all of it to very Catholic Spain and Portugal. The Hansa had the largest navy in Europe. It could have taken over all of America if it wanted. Catholic Europe was not satisfied until the Hansa was destroyed. South European Catholic generals occupied the heartland of Hansa power, in the area of Lubeck. The Hansa shipyards vanished. The Hansa fleet vanished.

The Hansa vanished. The “chief distinctive point” of the Law Merchant, that the Merchants of North Europe had a unified idea of what the GOOD FAITH was, vanished.

Since those days when its main promoter, the Hansa, crumbled, hundreds of years ago, the Law Merchant has grown to be “International Law” for all nations. The most diverse proposals, from Communism to Nazism, have come forward as candidates to fill the void of a belief system that International Law/the Law Merchant took for granted during what is now considered its formative stage.

“What is GOOD faith?” It is faith in Our Lord and Savior. Certainly, that was understood by all Parties, when the Reformation first showed Christianity that there was a real Problem. Because of the greatness of the turmoil that was caused by that Problem even the majority of all men may have stopped caring what Good Faith in the Lord is; but that doesn’t do away with their very TEMPORAL resultant Problem.

The International Law upon which all Nations of our Modern World operate, along with, in fact, all Business in the United States of America, is the Law Merchant — devised by great numbers of very talented Christian men as they gave their Verdicts case by case throughout the Middle Ages according to their unanimous sentiment of what Good Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ required. That the smaller organizations to which they belonged collapsed is not the point. The point is that the excellence of their system won the day years ago as the Whole Earth’s System. For better or worse it IS THE System.


Now that is real intelligence!

Darren wrote:
When we talk about “what the constitution allows,” we are so short sighted to think we know anything about the Constitution, without understanding the culture behind the Constitution. A virtuous economic system is operated by LAW. A Virtuous Law System didn’t just flame into existence with the writing of the US Constitution, These principles have operated with the peoples and the organization that was the Church of Jesus Christ of former-day Saints, as it existed since about 40 AD, established by Christ in Northern Europe.


LittleLion wrote:
When I said "what the constitution allows" I was referring to the LAW that was written my men that Christ rose up for this very purpose. Men who used the lessons of history and took all the best parts of the LAWS that man had been living and using since Adam. Your right, it did not just flame into existence, it took billions of people making mistakes over and over again until they finally recognized it, wrote it down, and lived it for centuries. The LAW is what it is, and the constitution is the LAW that allows or disallows certain actions The same way an oath allowed or disallowed certain actions back when oaths were the LAW. You swore by an oath just as you should swear by the constitution now. But the PTB have sworn by their own secret oaths, the same oaths sworn by cain, so our law, the constitution, means nothing now, and the rules keep changing to suit the PTB. Oaths and covenants are Gods way and until we get back to that the constitution is the next best thing, but when our leaders call it just a G.D. piece of paper like Bush did, we need to make a stand like some of us have.


LL, I do like your energy in this thought, however there is so much more to understand on this topic.

I wish we could have a modern-day Hanseatic League.

Cleon Skousen and President Benson both talked about the coming Cleansing. This we must accept as a fact.

The United States as we have always known it, will end, its operation as an organization will cease.

The Constitution of the United States will yield itself to a new constitutional creation, partially because of the Elders who have stepped forward to save the principles that are in the constitution and laws of the people. The new Constitution for the new organization that will be called Zion will be called something like, The Constitution of the Commonwealth of the Kingdom of God on Earth or perhaps just The Constitution of Zion.

The amount of blood that will be spilt in America over the birth of this new Constitution is yet to be seen. I expect the cleansing of America will have causalities that will number in the thousands if not millions. And Utah will not escape it’s share of the country’s devastations.

Getting prepared for this event and the aftermath is what I am exhausting my life over. It is foremost in my mind. Are you ready for this new era?

You can prepare to throw your body under the tank treads of the advancing New World Order. Or you can begin in some small way to “Work Together by the Law” and displace Satan’s System with The Lord’s System, even if just one family and community at a time.

God Bless,
Darren


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