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Starts out telling the truth and then ends with a pile of lies... Wake up America, that is Socialism and that will only destroy the economy and everything else more.. erm.. *gag*

Satan is still playing the same game.

I have been impressed with Dennis, even with his socialist leanings, but impressed with his commitment towards impeachment and the truth of 9/11, he stands out along with Ron Paul. I had hoped he wasn't part of the secret combinations.

Brings to mind the 1844 Joseph Smith prophetic statement:

"There will be two great political parties in this country. One will be called the Republican, and the other the Democrat party. These two parties will go to war and out of these two parties will spring another party which will be the Independent American Party..."

I wonder if the latter party will emerge soon?

Where have you been dude (or dudette)? It already has. The leader is none other than Captain Moroni alias Batman. Get with the party Bro. (or Sis)


PS Kussinich is a socialist dolt. Always has been. Always will be.

It would not surprise me that Satan would have a counterfeit for that party also.

Interesting insight ldsff. Deception comes in many flavors.

I don't get the Batman comment , but looking into it, there is an "Independent American Party"... (I see CHH has history with this party and has a Batman avatar)

From Wikipedia: (I see this has already been discussed here by CHH - who said he founded this party? based on JS prophecy according to another thread Aug. 18)

The Independent American Party is a Protestant Neo-Confederate theocratic political party with several state affiliates. It was founded in 1998. This should not be confused with the Nevada affiliate of the Constitution Party, which is also called the "Independent American Party". As of 2006 only three of its candidates have achieved elected office. The party traces its roots back to George Wallace's American Independent movement of 1968, and seeks "government by the Almighty". They are against the New world order, the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations. They also oppose secularism, abortion, the welfare state, and black emancipation.

http://www.usiap.org/

Unless you want to become known as a gadianton son of perdition to be I would drop this whole pursuit in its tracks. Just some friendly advice to my naive but well meaning friend truthseeds in cyberspace.

Can you provide the source for this statement? If this statement is legitimate, it is an incredible prophecy since when it was given the two parties in power were the Whigs & Democrats. The Republican Party didn't rise to prominence until 1860 with Abraham Lincoln being elected president.

Here you go.


Prophecy of Joseph Smith, as recorded by Mosiah Lyman Hancock (June 19, 1844), commonly known as the “Hancock Prophecy”: The next day the Prophet came to our home and stopped in our carpenter shop and stood by the turning lathe. I went and got my map for him. "Now," he said, "I will show you the travels of this people." He then showed our travels thou Iowa, and said, "Here you will make a place for the winter; and here you will travel west until you come to the valley of the Great Salt Lake! You will build cities to the North and to the South, and to the East and to the West; and you will become a great and wealthy people in that land. But, the United States will not receive you with the laws which God desires you to live, and you will have to go to where the Nephites lost their power. They worked in the United Order for 166 years, and the Saints have got to become proficient in the laws of God before they can meet the Lord Jesus Christ, or even the city of Enoch." He said we will not travel the shape of the horse shoe for there we will await the action of the government. Placing his finger on the map, I should think about where Snowflake, Arizona is situated, or it could have been Mexico, he said, "The government will not receive you with the laws that God designed you to live, and those who are desirous to live the laws of God will have to go South. You will live to see men arise in power in the Church who will seek to put down your friends and the friends of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Many will be hoisted because of their money and the worldly learning which they seem to be in possession of; and many who are the true followers of our Lord and Savior will be cast down because of their poverty. There will be two great political parties in this country. One will be called the Republican, and the other the Democrat party. These two will go to war and out of these two parties will spring another party which will be the Independent American Party. The United States will spend her strength and means warring in foreign lands, until other nations will say, "Let's divide up the lands of United States." Then the people of the U.S. will unite and swear by the blood of their forefathers, that the land will not be divided. Then the country will go to war, and they will fight until one half of the U.S. army will give up, and the rest will continue to struggle. They will keep on until they are very ragged and discouraged, and almost ready to give up, when the boys from the mountains will rush forth in time to save the American Army from defeat and ruin. And they will say, "Brethren, we are glad you have come. Give us men, henceforth, who can talk with God." Then you will have friends, but you will save the country when it's liberty hangs by a hair, as it were.
(Sources: The Journal of Mosiah Lyman Hancock, p. 19-20; Autobiography of Mosiah Hancock, typescript, BYU Library Special Collections, p. 29. Compiled by Amy E. Baird, Victoria H. Jackson, and Laura L. Wassell (daughters of Mosiah Hancock).

Here is a link also to Autobiography of Mosiah Hancock

http://www.boap.org/LDS/Early-Saints/MHancock.html

Darn I just gave that to my visiting teachers yesterday.

I may charter that party here in Missouri... just waiting for the right moment.

It may be sooner then I thought...

Excuse me...What have I done to deserve that threat? What pursuit? I'm just trying to figure out what you are talking about, Mark. And thanks for throwing stones my way...Naive. That's just what I had hoped for when I joined this site...wow. Please, enlighten me for I am obviously too naive to understand what it is I've done to deserve the "Unless you want to become known as a gadianton son of perdition" comment.

He is referring to CHH who is in the IAP in Nevada that is on this site... although, I think it would be hard to understand what he is saying without the history. I've been on here for awhile and I still don't always get Mark, but I love him anyway.

I don't think this was Mark's attempt to poke at you, rather it was him warning you about CHH whom Mark doesn't seem to care much for. CHH is batman, and he is a leader for the Independent American Party in Nevada. He also isn't shy about calling people to repentence for participating in socialistic programs like income taxes and state licensing. I like CHH, but Mark was warning you against bringing him into this as far as I see.

-SC

Mark is a tease......have fun with it. Tease him back.

Trust us, truthseeds.

Mark meant no offense to you. He's a good guy. (Twisted though.)

Okay. No offense taken. I am a sensitive soul and, like said above, didn't get the tease because of my lack of history here. I thought I was being called out, so to speak. Inside jokes flew over my naive head. I've been stressing a bit. I'll post on that elsewhere. Thanks all for clarifying things.

peace

p.s. I would love not to take part in socialistic and illegal income taxes etc.

I told my wife once that if people aren't teasing me back then I know they don't much care for my ugly mug. I now know you care ldsff. I'm touched. I am sorry for my flippant comments Truthseeds. CHH and I go way back. I have inspired him in more ways than he can express. By the way JB I may be twisted but you my Brother are distressingly disturbed. Thats what I like about you. You're all nuts in my book.

this is a very one dimensional place

here is all you need to know

CHH is the ONLY person living the gospel and fighting for our freedom

WE are ALL communists

Mark believes Bush and Cheney arent evil or smart enough to plot, but that they are drunkards of ephraim, while Russia and China are plotting to come and get us


I hate most everything the USA stands for and have a chip on my shoulder with the leadership for caring more about their 401k status than standing for right in a world where over a billion people live in complete and utter unbearable misery (apparently)

ChelC is possibly the only person here who is not bi-polar, and SwissMrsandPitchfire have disappeared off the face of the earth altogether- to the point that even I am worried for him.

Oh, and DrJones is otherwise normal, but the more wackos that come here the less he comes here

Got'a say Aussie that pretty close, I'm missing Swiss and Pitch too ... truthseeds stick around you'll be fine. BTW I like your site, I think your in the right place. Good luck.

Oh, and Aussie is one of the few that have it all figured out. That he posts to us mortals (Americans) on this site is nothing but a miracle

I agree.

It takes one to know one roo man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncL8xjHnpYI

no it is not a miracle you ignorant imperialistical idelogue

its called a "condescention"





and for what its worth, the_only_thing I have worked out is that my wife can read my mind and knows what I am thinking- most of the time. And those few times she is wrong, she's probably right anyway.

Ain't that the truth for all us husbands

That is true....I am more worried about my eternal salvation then my wife's. She is the most Godlike person I know.